Loads for 9.3x72R

Ray VanderLinden · January 26, 1999, 04:36 PM

A freind of mine had a beautiful old Drilling 16 over 9.3X72R The barrel is Krupp Nitro Proofed. He has has bullets and Brass for the rifle barrel but has no load information with modern powders. Can Anybody help?

Contender · January 26, 1999, 10:12 PM

Ray, The only data I could find was in the Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions;

Lists a 193gr. RN bullet, 39grs. Ball-C2.
Don't know if this is a MAX load but would be inclined to approach it as if it was.Does not state if jacketed or lead bullet.

It also states not to confuse it with the 9.3X72R Sauer.

Found loads for a 9.3X74R in the SPEER manual which states it is the Smokeless Powder updated version of your cartridge.

You may want to use some real caution before attempting smokeless loads.

Wish I could find more..........

Walt Welch · January 28, 1999, 03:22 AM

9.3 x 72R?? That is a very unusual cartridge indeed, although most commonly found in Drillings, as your friend's.

DON'T use the old brass: it is very likely to be weakened by the use of corrosive powder and/or mercuric primers.

If your friend insists on firing this valuable antique, take it to a gunsmith and have it thoroughly inspected and approved.

DON'T try to handload it; the grief of finding data and new brass isn't worth it (remember it is most likely Berdan primed anyway).

If he absolutely, positively has to fire his Drilling, Dynamite/Nobel still makes factory cartridges, $65 for 20, but it is a small price to pay for guaranteed quality ammo, and how much is he going to shoot it, anyway?

The price of brass, dies, etc. simply isn't worth it. This is a big game cartridge, remember, and not useful for most other forms of shooting.

Here is the URL for D/N: http://www.dnrws.com/p676.htm

Walt

Ray VanderLinden · January 28, 1999, 06:49 AM

Walt,
All good points. And he has no intention of shooting it much. He does however have in possession (the came with the Drilling) Some older brass, plus new unprimed brass bullets factory soft points and a few leads, and a mold. And he has found a source for the Bedan primmers.
The weapon has been checked by gunsmith in that collects Drillings himself. The Gunsmith prononced the weapon fit to fire and stated that as the weapon had been used, before he purchased it that it would not hurt to shoot the weapon again. He had no load data for the Cartrige however.
I belive My friends intent is to load the new brass with a good midrange load, and then will probabley only shoot the weapon rarely.
I do thank you for the comments and sound advise and I will forward it to him. If he was on the web he would be talking to you himself.
Any further help in load Data, and other advise will be past along, with both my friend's,and my gratitude.
Thanks

Walt Welch · January 28, 1999, 08:45 PM

OK, if you friend insists on this most dubious of activities, here is a source for new brass:
http://www.ballardrifles.com/html/more_cartridges.htm

The only source of data for reloading was an obscure reference to the Feb. 1991 Handloader Magazine, p. 21
You may contact the publishers and see if they can furnish you a reprint:

Hldr-"Handloader", Wolfe Publishing Company, 6471 Airpark DR.,
Prescott, AZ 86301. Phone:602-445-7810.

Of course, I presume that you have already done the thing that should be done first with any firearms question: contact the NRA. If not, do so. Walt

fal308 · January 29, 1999, 11:48 AM

to add to Contender's information. Vihtavouri lists the 9.3x74R. Go to www.lapua.com/vihtavouri for info.

Ray VanderLinden · February 2, 1999, 09:24 AM

Thanks, Gentlemen
I have passed the information along.

January 26, 1999, 04:36 PM	#1
Ray VanderLinden Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 1999 Location: Southern Iowa Posts: 211	A freind of mine had a beautiful old Drilling 16 over 9.3X72R The barrel is Krupp Nitro Proofed. He has has bullets and Brass for the rifle barrel but has no load information with modern powders. Can Anybody help?

January 26, 1999, 10:12 PM	#2
Contender Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 1998 Location: NY Posts: 680	Ray, The only data I could find was in the Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversions; Lists a 193gr. RN bullet, 39grs. Ball-C2. Don't know if this is a MAX load but would be inclined to approach it as if it was.Does not state if jacketed or lead bullet. It also states not to confuse it with the 9.3X72R Sauer. Found loads for a 9.3X74R in the SPEER manual which states it is the Smokeless Powder updated version of your cartridge. You may want to use some real caution before attempting smokeless loads. Wish I could find more..........

January 28, 1999, 03:22 AM	#3
Walt Welch Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 1998 Location: Alamo, CA Posts: 424	9.3 x 72R?? That is a very unusual cartridge indeed, although most commonly found in Drillings, as your friend's. DON'T use the old brass: it is very likely to be weakened by the use of corrosive powder and/or mercuric primers. If your friend insists on firing this valuable antique, take it to a gunsmith and have it thoroughly inspected and approved. DON'T try to handload it; the grief of finding data and new brass isn't worth it (remember it is most likely Berdan primed anyway). If he absolutely, positively has to fire his Drilling, Dynamite/Nobel still makes factory cartridges, $65 for 20, but it is a small price to pay for guaranteed quality ammo, and how much is he going to shoot it, anyway? The price of brass, dies, etc. simply isn't worth it. This is a big game cartridge, remember, and not useful for most other forms of shooting. Here is the URL for D/N: http://www.dnrws.com/p676.htm Walt

January 28, 1999, 06:49 AM	#4
Ray VanderLinden Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 1999 Location: Southern Iowa Posts: 211	Walt, All good points. And he has no intention of shooting it much. He does however have in possession (the came with the Drilling) Some older brass, plus new unprimed brass bullets factory soft points and a few leads, and a mold. And he has found a source for the Bedan primmers. The weapon has been checked by gunsmith in that collects Drillings himself. The Gunsmith prononced the weapon fit to fire and stated that as the weapon had been used, before he purchased it that it would not hurt to shoot the weapon again. He had no load data for the Cartrige however. I belive My friends intent is to load the new brass with a good midrange load, and then will probabley only shoot the weapon rarely. I do thank you for the comments and sound advise and I will forward it to him. If he was on the web he would be talking to you himself. Any further help in load Data, and other advise will be past along, with both my friend's,and my gratitude. Thanks

January 28, 1999, 08:45 PM	#5
Walt Welch Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 1998 Location: Alamo, CA Posts: 424	OK, if you friend insists on this most dubious of activities, here is a source for new brass: http://www.ballardrifles.com/html/more_cartridges.htm The only source of data for reloading was an obscure reference to the Feb. 1991 Handloader Magazine, p. 21 You may contact the publishers and see if they can furnish you a reprint: Hldr-"Handloader", Wolfe Publishing Company, 6471 Airpark DR., Prescott, AZ 86301. Phone:602-445-7810. Of course, I presume that you have already done the thing that should be done first with any firearms question: contact the NRA. If not, do so. Walt

January 29, 1999, 11:48 AM	#6
fal308 Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 12, 1998 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,992	to add to Contender's information. Vihtavouri lists the 9.3x74R. Go to www.lapua.com/vihtavouri for info.

February 2, 1999, 09:24 AM	#7
Ray VanderLinden Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 1999 Location: Southern Iowa Posts: 211	Thanks, Gentlemen I have passed the information along.