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View Poll Results: Do you think the color of your carry gun matters?
Yes, I could see it playing a role. 33 25.38%
No, it would not have any impact. 84 64.62%
I'm not sure if it would or not. 13 10.00%
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Old July 30, 2015, 10:56 AM   #51
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Do you think the color of your carry gun matters?

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Look, you don't know unless you read the mind of the juror. If the prosecution says ABC and then you try to rebut it - you might just make the jury pay more attention.


Then you tell me what magic color I should chose.



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One really should read up before expounding that is or that won't have an effect or you as a non-expert claim this or that is a good strategy.


My point is anything can be made to look evil in purpose. Night sights? Oh, you want to kill people from the shadows like an assassin. Semiautomatic pistol? Oh, you knew you weren't a good enough shot and needed extra capacity and put the public in danger (or just wanted to kill more people). To worry about something like this is, to me, pointless. Now I wouldn't recommend wearing shirts with hate phrases on them or decking your pistol out in Punisher skulls, but the base color? Come on. More so, we're missing the big picture that the individual chose to carry a gun in the first place. Obviously he/she chose to carry a gun because his/her desire was to harm another human being.



Are these items that might possibly come up in court? Sure, so make sure you have some basis in reasoning. But what you're saying is that refuting a falsehood or clarifying a decision makes it more likely the jury will believe the prosecution. In that case you're screwed regardless.

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Old July 30, 2015, 08:22 PM   #52
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When you consider all the stupid stuff that people say and think about firearms. I think I'd feel safer going to court knowing I used a pink gun rather than a black gun in a self defense situation.
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Old July 30, 2015, 08:45 PM   #53
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I voted not sure. In all logical intents and purposes it should not. But in courtrooms today it seems that on occasion logic is thrown out the window!
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Old July 30, 2015, 09:29 PM   #54
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I purposely got the nickel plated 4" barrel Chiappa Rhino when I bought one. If I have to pull it out in a self defense situation, I want them to see it.
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Old July 31, 2015, 01:34 PM   #55
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Andy, my friend has a six inch rhino with the gold anodized finish... it's his "cartel gun" as we affectionately refer to it.
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Old July 31, 2015, 08:02 PM   #56
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If your pistol looks like this...chances of the DA being a bit cranky after a defensive shoot go up.


If it looks like my Wifey's pistol, not so much...


It depends on the colors chosen, decoration or hunting purpose modifications...etc

Great Example, a recent defensive shooting with a Hunting Pistol...bad guy breaks into a home,
the homeowner is cleaning a long-barrel Ruger Super Redhawk that had been camo dipped,
loads a round and nails the bad guy with one .454 shot to the heart/lungs...
DA doesn't even bother to hold a hearing...good shoot, and no headaches.
Would the same thing have happened with the 1st pistol pictured?? Doubt it.
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Old August 1, 2015, 12:44 AM   #57
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My reason would be being unique and personalize the gun.
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Old August 1, 2015, 08:51 AM   #58
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I chose "might be" because I can think of an attacker thinking that a brightly colored firearm was a toy and a bluff; they would be less likely to think that a common black or stainless finish is a toy. Speculating on the the DA or the plaintiff's attorney is an endless circle.
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Old August 1, 2015, 10:47 AM   #59
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Great Example, a recent defensive shooting with a Hunting Pistol...bad guy breaks into a home,
the homeowner is cleaning a long-barrel Ruger Super Redhawk that had been camo dipped,
loads a round and nails the bad guy with one .454 shot to the heart/lungs...
DA doesn't even bother to hold a hearing...good shoot, and no headaches.
Would the same thing have happened with the 1st pistol pictured?? Doubt it.
Holy speculation Batman! I guess I better sell my Glock and buy a Ruger Super Redhawk.
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Old August 1, 2015, 12:00 PM   #60
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Nah, just slap a 9" Lone Wolf barrel on it
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Old August 1, 2015, 01:19 PM   #61
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The point is that you better get a lawyer that is familiar with effective presentations to a jury and skilled at voir dire.

Internet speculations that your lawyer can easily dismiss this or that by logic - that's a hope but not always true.

The best strategy is not to get into some ambiguous shoot situation and then get charged. Once you are in the bad situation - then good lawyers need to scope out the prejudices.
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Old August 1, 2015, 01:38 PM   #62
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The most important thing is to scratch hash marks into your slide to represent the number of kills you've made with the gun.
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Old August 1, 2015, 02:15 PM   #63
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Big Shrek, I've heard of unicorn guns, but I think that's the first time I've seen a Pinocchio gun.
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Old August 1, 2015, 06:25 PM   #64
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Heh, yeah...does kinda look pinnochio-ish

I've got some funky going-ons with my G20,
as I couldn't find a slide that was long enough to make it look normal...
so I'm having the barrel threaded to accept either a suppressor with a rather unusual build to it,
or the compensator that's being built to look like an elongated slide end...
for lack of better terminology...

Basically, the comp & suppressor will have the usual stuff up front,
but also have a slide-like length running to the rear, to cover the barrel,
so it all looks like a really long-slide pistol, if that makes any more sense.

And yeah, I know I'm making a silk purse out of a sow's ear
But hopefully it'll all be worth it in the end...
which will give me a very quiet and/or very well controlled hunting pistol.
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Old August 2, 2015, 02:01 PM   #65
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I voted yes before reading the OP . oops . Yea here in CA if I were in court and being judged . I think I'd want my gun full of my little pony rainbows . When I voted I was thinking concealment only . I would not want a hot pink or zombie green grip sticking up from my ccw holster . I try to keep the colors matching , black grip black holster .
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Old August 2, 2015, 11:01 PM   #66
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Sad, but true

The fact of the matter is that if you are on trial, the outcome is not based entirely on whether or not you broke the law. Your fate lies in the hands of 12 people who probably have no legal training. They may have anti-gun or pro-gun predispositions, there is no way to know. They may be open minded individuals who are willing to look at the facts of the matter with as little prejudgement as possible, or they may have already made up their minds and are just waiting for their chance to cast their vote regarding your guilt or innocence, regardless of what is presented in the court room. Because of the jury system, there are so many variable factors that have little or nothing to do with the law that we cannot discount the idea that the model, color, name, or any other aspect of the gun can be used to make a SD shooter look guilty. Prosecutors know this, and they will not hesitate to twist facts and use inuendo in order to sway the jury, even when the facts point distinctly toward a not guilty verdict.
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