Got no ammo, got no range?

g.willikers · April 20, 2013, 10:17 AM

What's that?
You ain't been shooting in a month of Sundays?
You say you can't find ammo, either centerfire or rimfire?
And when you do, you can't afford to buy it?
And gas prices and range fees are slowing you down, too?

There's a near perfect air pistol, that is an excellent substitute for your .22.
It's the Umarex CO2 copy of the Beretta PX4.
Recoil at least as much as a .22,
Excellent accuracy with good .177 pellets through its rifled barrel.
But don't take my word for it.
Here's a thorough video review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=R8UwQ3LqetM

Mausermolt · April 20, 2013, 01:49 PM

gee willikers! sounds like someone works for Umarex

mrt949 · April 20, 2013, 03:16 PM

I shot air pistols for months after carpletunel and trigger finger surgery .no shame in air guns .

Mike38 · April 20, 2013, 03:49 PM

When I shot Bullseye Pistol and Standard Pistol competitively, I practiced in my garage with an air pistol. I used a Baikal .22, so I bought a Baikal .177 air pistol. 50 feet is all you need. Took a 3 foot square cardboard box, put plywood in the bottom, then multiple layers of cardboard, taped it shut. Used the top of the box as the target front. Plywood was the very back of the stop. I shot for a couple years before the pellets started working their way out the back. Must have been thousands of pellets in that box.

kraigwy · April 20, 2013, 06:05 PM

I had my butt kicked more then once by college kids shooting air rifle and air pistol matches.

They will humble you.

CSG · April 20, 2013, 08:52 PM

I only have a non-blowback Colt 1911 spring pistol but it's great fun and has been a good tool teaching the boys. I'm in the market for a higher end full-function gas 1911. I understand some LE agencies use airsoft firearms for training.

And geez, mausermolt, lighten up.

g.willikers · April 21, 2013, 07:44 AM

San Fransisco police have been using airsoft for their training, due to the ammo shortages.
It made the news this week:
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...ammo-shortage/

m&p45acp10+1 · April 21, 2013, 09:25 AM

I broke out my Quakenbush .457 this weekend. I found some dead soft lead to cast up some of my hollow base .459 bullets with. The range I go to has a paintball field so I used thier air to refill it. I got some strange looks, and lot of questions at the rifle range when I was shooting it. My camera is not working on my phone or I would have taken some pics before I took the rifle back to my Dad's house to put away in the safe. It is a ton of fun to shoot.

April 20, 2013, 10:17 AM	#1
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	Got no ammo, got no range? What's that? You ain't been shooting in a month of Sundays? You say you can't find ammo, either centerfire or rimfire? And when you do, you can't afford to buy it? And gas prices and range fees are slowing you down, too? There's a near perfect air pistol, that is an excellent substitute for your .22. It's the Umarex CO2 copy of the Beretta PX4. Recoil at least as much as a .22, Excellent accuracy with good .177 pellets through its rifled barrel. But don't take my word for it. Here's a thorough video review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=R8UwQ3LqetM __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

April 20, 2013, 01:49 PM	#2
Mausermolt Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2007 Location: Ory-gun Posts: 508	gee willikers! sounds like someone works for Umarex __________________ Molon Labe

April 20, 2013, 03:16 PM	#3
mrt949 Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2008 Posts: 1,692	I shot air pistols for months after carpletunel and trigger finger surgery .no shame in air guns . __________________ No Gun Big Or Small Does It All

April 20, 2013, 06:05 PM	#5
kraigwy Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 11,061	I had my butt kicked more then once by college kids shooting air rifle and air pistol matches. They will humble you. __________________ Kraig Stuart CPT USAR Ret USAMU Sniper School Distinguished Rifle Badge 1071

April 21, 2013, 07:44 AM	#7
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	San Fransisco police have been using airsoft for their training, due to the ammo shortages. It made the news this week: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...ammo-shortage/ __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

April 20, 2013, 03:49 PM	#4
Mike38 Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2009 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 2,710	When I shot Bullseye Pistol and Standard Pistol competitively, I practiced in my garage with an air pistol. I used a Baikal .22, so I bought a Baikal .177 air pistol. 50 feet is all you need. Took a 3 foot square cardboard box, put plywood in the bottom, then multiple layers of cardboard, taped it shut. Used the top of the box as the target front. Plywood was the very back of the stop. I shot for a couple years before the pellets started working their way out the back. Must have been thousands of pellets in that box.

April 20, 2013, 08:52 PM	#6
CSG Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 1999 Location: Out West Posts: 176	I only have a non-blowback Colt 1911 spring pistol but it's great fun and has been a good tool teaching the boys. I'm in the market for a higher end full-function gas 1911. I understand some LE agencies use airsoft firearms for training. And geez, mausermolt, lighten up.

April 21, 2013, 09:25 AM	#8
m&p45acp10+1 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 3,930	I broke out my Quakenbush .457 this weekend. I found some dead soft lead to cast up some of my hollow base .459 bullets with. The range I go to has a paintball field so I used thier air to refill it. I got some strange looks, and lot of questions at the rifle range when I was shooting it. My camera is not working on my phone or I would have taken some pics before I took the rifle back to my Dad's house to put away in the safe. It is a ton of fun to shoot. __________________ No matter how many times you do it and nothing happens it only takes something going wrong one time to kill you.