Shoot On Sight

roy reali · May 14, 2010, 06:25 AM

I know a guy here that if he crosses paths with any snake and he happens to have any firearm on him, he shoots the creature. Forget trying to explain to him that gopher snakes not only eat rodents, but rattlesnakes too, to him the only good snake is a dead snake.

The only animal that I will shoot on sight, without a second thought, is a starling. If one is sitting on a branch and I have my .22 rifles, if there no safety concerns, I'll shoot. Even if the range is questionable, I'll send a piece of lead towards it. If one flies anywhere near me when I have a shotgun in hand, I'll try to bring the bird down.

Are there any creatures that you will shoot on sight, no second thoughts?

Double Naught Spy · May 14, 2010, 07:48 AM

No, your buddy is not alone. A lot of people have snake phobias.

Gunplummer · May 14, 2010, 07:53 AM

coyotes. Nasty things.

Art Eatman · May 14, 2010, 08:41 AM

Ferals.

As for starlings or grackles? Way, way back, I saw a bunch of grackles land in a small oak tree in my front yard. (Out in the country.) Maybe thirty or so. I eased out the door with a 20-gauge and cut loose. It rained grackles.

Within two minutes or so, here came more grackles, landing in that tree. A bigger bunch than the first.

I figured I was in a re-write of Alfred Hitchcock's "Birds". No more bang-bang for me, no sir!. I went and got the wheelbarrow to haul away the carcasses.

Enough's enough...

L_Killkenny · May 14, 2010, 10:14 AM

Skunks, Opossums and Coyotes.

LK

Kreyzhorse · May 14, 2010, 10:45 AM

I don't shoot any thing on sight as a rule. But, if I have my dander up, a snake might get dispatched more likely than not. I hate snakes.

Bigjfb · May 14, 2010, 10:47 AM

Pterodactyls

I hate those SOBs

mete · May 14, 2010, 11:01 AM

All snakes are protected in NY !! Of the many types here there are two bad ones , rattlers and copperheads.Their pupils are verticle slit while the good ones have round pupils.

Pathfinder45 · May 14, 2010, 11:20 AM

......and the idea that the only good snake is a dead snake.....It's usually attributable to a phobia, often times religious in origin. "Now the Serpent was more subtle than any beast........" So if the snake is the embodiment of Satan, then all snakes are evil. A person doesn't have to be religious; old superstitions do not die easily.

Wild Bill Bucks · May 14, 2010, 11:29 AM

Ferals & anything that looks like it wants to bite me.

Don't have a clue what a "grackel" is, but if it looks like it will bite...them to.

horseman308 · May 14, 2010, 11:40 AM

For me, snakes and coyotes. I've gotten a lot better about snakes than I used to be, so I now will mostly only shoot poisonous ones. I'd also have no hesitation about feral dogs, cats, or hogs. I've just never come across one when hunting.

publius · May 14, 2010, 12:37 PM

i leave snakes alone except for water moccasins. mean buggers that are easy to corner or step on accidentally. I kill hogs with extreme prejudice. coyotes, armadillos, opossums, skunks, coons die if i'm not deer hunting, don't want to ruin my deer hunt.

FrankenMauser · May 14, 2010, 12:58 PM

Shoot on site: (no particular order)
1. Feral cats that don't look too healthy.
2. Any dog running big game.
3. Escaped goats. (Call them feral if you want. They shouldn't be where I shoot/hunt. Fish and Game agrees.)
4. Sheep herders' dogs, left on the lease after the deadline to have everything out. (They will end up doing #2, and I don't care how much people think the owner might return. They never do. They come back with new dogs every year.) Officially, the Fish and Game should get a call about these dogs, so the warden can put them down. Unofficially, it saves a lot of time and paperwork, if they don't have to come out.
5. Dandelions. I hate dandelions.

You won't ever see my shoot a snake, just to shoot a snake. Unless a venomous species (rattlers around here) is posing a serious threat, that cannot be avoided, I won't shoot them. But if I do... they're pretty tasty.

kaylorinhi · May 14, 2010, 01:44 PM

Tango's!!

crghss · May 14, 2010, 03:11 PM

And what do we use to shoot a Pterodactyl?

Never shot anything on site. There has to be a rhyme or reason.

Well, except a paper target.

markj · May 14, 2010, 03:52 PM

Quote:

And what do we use to shoot a Pterodactyl?

A really big gun.

HAMMER1DOWN · May 14, 2010, 03:57 PM

normally the pterodactyl takes a AAA gun or something of the nature, after all it wouldn't be fair chase to shoot it on its perch

Tuzo · May 14, 2010, 04:32 PM

I like snakes - all kinds. They keep the pest population at reasonable levels. But I don't like racoons. Shoot them whenever I legally can.

But I really despise Twinkies for many reasons. Greasy, tough on the digestion, and generally bad. Tough to kill though. A Twinkie can survive a lot of 5mm pellets. Most of the pellets go through and through with very little tissue damage.

Double Naught Spy · May 14, 2010, 05:01 PM

Quote:

All snakes are protected in NY !! Of the many types here there are two bad ones , rattlers and copperheads.Their pupils are verticle slit while the good ones have round pupils.

The problem here is that if you are close enough to ascertain pupil shape, you may already be too close.

I believe that only indigenous snakes (and other herps) are what is being protected under NY law. Non-native species don't receive the same protection.

troy_mclure · May 14, 2010, 05:06 PM

feral cats, rats, chupacabra.

2rugers · May 14, 2010, 05:11 PM

Rattlers, moccasins, copperheads get a pass now, skunks, coyotes, bobcats, coons around the feeders, that's about all I can think of at the moment.

cornbush · May 14, 2010, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Shoot on site: (no particular order)
1. Feral cats that don't look too healthy.
2. Any dog running big game.
3. Escaped goats. (Call them feral if you want. They shouldn't be where I shoot/hunt. Fish and Game agrees.)
4. Sheep herders' dogs, left on the lease after the deadline to have everything out. (They will end up doing #2, and I don't care how much people think the owner might return. They never do. They come back with new dogs every year.) Officially, the Fish and Game should get a call about these dogs, so the warden can put them down. Unofficially, it saves a lot of time and paperwork, if they don't have to come out.
5. Dandelions. I hate dandelions.

Aside from the dandelions that pretty much covers it.
If I killed every dandelion I saw my neighbors would have me committed, my whole yard would be full of lead.

foghorn leghorn · May 14, 2010, 05:33 PM

I'm grateful the OP said creature, it opened the door to my soul, but honestly with everything going on lately, you don't want to know.

I did mod my Springer 1911-A1 hi cap with a beavertail and combat hammer if anybody wants to see it, let me know.

rickyrick · May 14, 2010, 06:03 PM

only poisonous snakes... all others can soldier on.

if you time it right...and the snake is on a gravel road..step on the brakes enough to skid as the tire gets on top of the snake... grinds it up, saves bullets.

Gunplummer · May 14, 2010, 06:28 PM

I do not kill snakes if I don't have to. I can understand the phobia part. I was under a crawl space in the dark heading for a window to close and put my hand on a snake. That was the first mistake, trying to stand up in a crawlspace was the second. I had snake phobia for quite a while, and it had nothing to do with religion, because the neighbors said I certainly did not sound religious under there.

May 14, 2010, 06:25 AM	#1
roy reali Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2005 Posts: 3,248	Shoot On Sight I know a guy here that if he crosses paths with any snake and he happens to have any firearm on him, he shoots the creature. Forget trying to explain to him that gopher snakes not only eat rodents, but rattlesnakes too, to him the only good snake is a dead snake. The only animal that I will shoot on sight, without a second thought, is a starling. If one is sitting on a branch and I have my .22 rifles, if there no safety concerns, I'll shoot. Even if the range is questionable, I'll send a piece of lead towards it. If one flies anywhere near me when I have a shotgun in hand, I'll try to bring the bird down. Are there any creatures that you will shoot on sight, no second thoughts?

May 14, 2010, 10:45 AM	#6
Kreyzhorse Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2006 Location: NKY Posts: 12,463	I don't shoot any thing on sight as a rule. But, if I have my dander up, a snake might get dispatched more likely than not. I hate snakes. __________________ "He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson

May 14, 2010, 11:20 AM	#9
Pathfinder45 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2008 Posts: 3,224	About people that kill all snakes.... ......and the idea that the only good snake is a dead snake.....It's usually attributable to a phobia, often times religious in origin. "Now the Serpent was more subtle than any beast........" So if the snake is the embodiment of Satan, then all snakes are evil. A person doesn't have to be religious; old superstitions do not die easily.

May 14, 2010, 11:40 AM	#11
horseman308 Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 526	For me, snakes and coyotes. I've gotten a lot better about snakes than I used to be, so I now will mostly only shoot poisonous ones. I'd also have no hesitation about feral dogs, cats, or hogs. I've just never come across one when hunting. __________________ You only take one shot at a time - make it count.

May 14, 2010, 12:37 PM	#12
publius Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2005 Location: Mississippi/Texas Posts: 2,505	i leave snakes alone except for water moccasins. mean buggers that are easy to corner or step on accidentally. I kill hogs with extreme prejudice. coyotes, armadillos, opossums, skunks, coons die if i'm not deer hunting, don't want to ruin my deer hunt. __________________ "Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress, but I repeat myself." Mark Twain

May 14, 2010, 07:48 AM	#2
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	No, your buddy is not alone. A lot of people have snake phobias. __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

May 14, 2010, 07:53 AM	#3
Gunplummer Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2010 Location: South East Pa. Posts: 3,364	coyotes. Nasty things.

May 14, 2010, 08:41 AM	#4
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	Ferals. As for starlings or grackles? Way, way back, I saw a bunch of grackles land in a small oak tree in my front yard. (Out in the country.) Maybe thirty or so. I eased out the door with a 20-gauge and cut loose. It rained grackles. Within two minutes or so, here came more grackles, landing in that tree. A bigger bunch than the first. I figured I was in a re-write of Alfred Hitchcock's "Birds". No more bang-bang for me, no sir!. I went and got the wheelbarrow to haul away the carcasses. Enough's enough...

May 14, 2010, 10:14 AM	#5
L_Killkenny Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,676	Skunks, Opossums and Coyotes. LK

May 14, 2010, 10:47 AM	#7
Bigjfb Member Join Date: April 27, 2010 Posts: 65	Pterodactyls I hate those SOBs

May 14, 2010, 11:01 AM	#8
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	All snakes are protected in NY !! Of the many types here there are two bad ones , rattlers and copperheads.Their pupils are verticle slit while the good ones have round pupils.

May 14, 2010, 11:29 AM	#10
Wild Bill Bucks Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2005 Location: Southeastern Oklahoma, Next door to Sasquatch Posts: 1,266	Ferals & anything that looks like it wants to bite me. Don't have a clue what a "grackel" is, but if it looks like it will bite...them to.

May 14, 2010, 12:58 PM	#13
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,426	Shoot on site: (no particular order) 1. Feral cats that don't look too healthy. 2. Any dog running big game. 3. Escaped goats. (Call them feral if you want. They shouldn't be where I shoot/hunt. Fish and Game agrees.) 4. Sheep herders' dogs, left on the lease after the deadline to have everything out. (They will end up doing #2, and I don't care how much people think the owner might return. They never do. They come back with new dogs every year.) Officially, the Fish and Game should get a call about these dogs, so the warden can put them down. Unofficially, it saves a lot of time and paperwork, if they don't have to come out. 5. Dandelions. I hate dandelions. You won't ever see my shoot a snake, just to shoot a snake. Unless a venomous species (rattlers around here) is posing a serious threat, that cannot be avoided, I won't shoot them. But if I do... they're pretty tasty. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

May 14, 2010, 01:44 PM	#14
kaylorinhi Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2010 Location: The brown eye of america Posts: 463	Tango's!! __________________ Buy your guns by Yardline, Not Looks.

May 14, 2010, 03:11 PM	#15
crghss Junior member Join Date: July 1, 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 537	And what do we use to shoot a Pterodactyl? Never shot anything on site. There has to be a rhyme or reason. Well, except a paper target.

May 14, 2010, 03:57 PM	#17
HAMMER1DOWN Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2008 Location: Close Enough to Canada to say "EH!!"... MT Posts: 418	normally the pterodactyl takes a AAA gun or something of the nature, after all it wouldn't be fair chase to shoot it on its perch __________________ "Worthy is Freedom to only those who are prepared to stand behind their rifles and fight for their rights" -Robert W. Hambley....A.K.A. Myself-

May 14, 2010, 04:32 PM	#18
Tuzo Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 797	Never snakes I like snakes - all kinds. They keep the pest population at reasonable levels. But I don't like racoons. Shoot them whenever I legally can. But I really despise Twinkies for many reasons. Greasy, tough on the digestion, and generally bad. Tough to kill though. A Twinkie can survive a lot of 5mm pellets. Most of the pellets go through and through with very little tissue damage.

May 14, 2010, 05:06 PM	#20
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	feral cats, rats, chupacabra. __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

May 14, 2010, 05:11 PM	#21
2rugers Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2005 Location: texas Posts: 762	Rattlers, moccasins, copperheads get a pass now, skunks, coyotes, bobcats, coons around the feeders, that's about all I can think of at the moment. __________________ Pain Is The Quickest Teacher 2RUGERS AKA "HALFCOCKED"

May 14, 2010, 05:33 PM	#23
foghorn leghorn Senior Member Join Date: January 18, 2010 Location: In a Van down by the River Posts: 181	I'm grateful the OP said creature, it opened the door to my soul, but honestly with everything going on lately, you don't want to know. I did mod my Springer 1911-A1 hi cap with a beavertail and combat hammer if anybody wants to see it, let me know. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Liberate America... Free the Republic -NRA Life Member-

May 14, 2010, 06:03 PM	#24
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,238	only poisonous snakes... all others can soldier on. if you time it right...and the snake is on a gravel road..step on the brakes enough to skid as the tire gets on top of the snake... grinds it up, saves bullets. __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

May 14, 2010, 06:28 PM	#25
Gunplummer Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2010 Location: South East Pa. Posts: 3,364	I do not kill snakes if I don't have to. I can understand the phobia part. I was under a crawl space in the dark heading for a window to close and put my hand on a snake. That was the first mistake, trying to stand up in a crawlspace was the second. I had snake phobia for quite a while, and it had nothing to do with religion, because the neighbors said I certainly did not sound religious under there.