does anybody load .270 win?

trigger45 · October 19, 2006, 12:16 AM

All i ever see is .45 this or .44 that or .300 this. where are the riflemen that reload for the .270 win? Ive never had a rifle that a 2 inch high at 100yards is too much for 200 yards.i really like the caliber. ireally want to shoot the rifle more. alread reload .243 win. should i stick with the 60 gr. of h4831, or is there newer better powder for the .270?

arkie2 · October 19, 2006, 05:45 AM

I've been reloading for my Savage .270 for about 6 months. I'm using H4350 and Varget with good results.

firechicken · October 19, 2006, 07:53 AM

H4831 is one of the "standard" 270 Win. powders. I tried it, and did't have much luck......maybe I didn't give it enough time. I use IMR 4350 with excellent results when loading 130gr Nosler Ballistic Tips. I also had good luck with H335 and 90gr HP's.

hivel37 · October 19, 2006, 08:36 AM

There are many powders that are newer and maybe better that I haven't tried. What does work with both 130 and 150 gr bullets is 4350 and 4831 Hodgdon and IMR. Since it's now one company, it'll be interesting how the powder lineups change over time.

rangermonroe · October 19, 2006, 08:47 AM

I use 130 Nosler bts and h-4895 and imr 4895.

I shoot golf balls at 100 yards with that load.

270Win · October 21, 2006, 06:35 AM

I've been reloading .270 for years now. Although it's almost a cliche at this point, H4831(SC) really is a fantastic powder for this cartridge. I've tried two or three other powders, with decent-to-good results, but always went back to H4831.

For a while, I attempted to shoot Very Long Distances with the .270, using Sierra's 135 grain MatchKings. I ultimately acheived really outstanding accuracy out to about 600 yards, sometimes 700, but no farther. At 1000 it was a real crapshoot, and was highly inconsistant, due partly to insufficient bullet weight. I wish someone would design a high-BC match bullet that was up above 150 or, ideally, 160 grains...

arkie2 · October 21, 2006, 09:06 AM

270 Win

I have been shooting 135 g matchkings with really poor results even at 100 yards. Not only am I getting poor groupings but for some reason this bullet consistently shoots 5 inches right of point of aim when I have it zeroed for any other bullet I shoot such as Speer/Hornady/Winchester 130 grain or speer 100 g HP. It's weird. I would be interested to hear what loads you used to get those results.

270Win · October 21, 2006, 09:24 AM

Interesting!

I had three different loads of H4831SC, a 58.5, a 59.5 and a 60.0c

I also tried out H4895 (42 grains), H380 (48 grains) and Varget (45.5 grains), with occasionally good results, but never consistent enough to make me switch. H4895 was the best of those, H380 the worst.

The 59.5 load of H4831 was the most accurate. This was all done on Lee dies and equipment, and the platform was a Remington 700 ADL, synthetic stock, standard profile barrel. I waited roughly five minutes between shots in temperate weather.

I never had that 5-inch-to-the-right problem, which is definitely unusual.

I was getting roughly 4" groups at 500 yards on my better days, which I thought was pretty decent from the various limitations I was working with.

arkie2 · October 21, 2006, 09:36 AM

I've been using H4350. I'm not ready to blame my powder for my poor grouping results yet. I decided to upgrade my scope, bases and rings after my last range trip because the rings were loose at the end of the session. I have a savage 110 and it came with a Simmons scope mounted on aluminum bases and rings. I'm going to Leupold bases and rings and a better scope. Hopefully that will improve my results. However, my scope problems can't begin to explain my 5 in deviation with those sierra MK's.

rem33 · October 21, 2006, 09:48 AM

I have a 700 that groups different bullet weights level but sideways and have always wondered why. I do load 270 but the rifle is a 30-06 I am refuring to. If sighted center for 150 gr. will shoot 180's a nice group the same height but to the side 4 to 5 inches and when I tried the 55gr. accelerators it was about 9".
I have done this on one target and you have 3 groups exactly level but several inches sideways to each other.Like the rifle mentioned above.
Anyone have a good explanation why?

Foxman · October 21, 2006, 12:30 PM

I use H4831 sc with Hornady 130 gr spt flat base bullets 60 gr of powder and CCI BR large rifle primers ( in My rifle) it is capable of .5" groups when I am up to it.

paknheat · October 22, 2006, 05:35 PM

I have a model 70 Winchester in .270 Win. I thought it was appropriate. The load it like is 130 gn Hornady SST's pushed along by 61gn of H-4831sc. It is a hot load but i get no indicatation of high pressures,and it produces.25 inch groups at 100yds.

Ammo Junky · October 22, 2006, 07:25 PM

rem33, I have seen poi change in all kinds of ways from different bullets / loads. Faster loads tend to hit lower at 100 unless the difference is +400fps, but dont bet your house on it, bullets have no shame in disobeing my predictions.

. Left or right there is probably no way at all to predict. I suspect it has to do with recoil curve, bbl time of the load and harmonics. There is no real way to predict. It amases me to see in handguns the same bulllet wt of a different type over the same powder and same mv hit at a different poi. It has to be the recoil and bbl time. FWIW David tub recomends 4350 speed powder up threw 7mm mag. I have not heard of stelar accuracy from 4831 powders. I would love to hear from more of you who used / tried 4831 and how the accuracy compared to other powders. I may have to try some in H4831sc, 180gr, 30-06 loads just to see what it does.

AJ

270Win · October 22, 2006, 09:33 PM

I had better consistancy with H4831 and H4895 than any other powder, slightly better with those two over the closest IMR powders. H380 was a mess for me, had no luck at all. I have a tough time finding Accurate, Alliant, Vihtavuori (sp?), Winchester, etc. in my neck of the woods, and by the time I make it to the gun shows, they are always sold out.

As stated before, for my .270 I tried H4831, H4895, H380 and Varget. H4831 had the best results, overall. The short-cut version also metered very well for me, which was a nice plus.

My results were good all things considered. I would like to try R-22, Accurate 2700, IMR7828, and H1000. Especially R-22, I've heard great things about that one. We'll see when I can get my hands on them...

gandog56 · October 22, 2006, 10:26 PM

I must be the weirdo out here. When I reloaded for .270 years ago I used
H414.

270Win · October 22, 2006, 11:46 PM

No, not at all. I've heard from several other shooters at my range about the virtues of H414, but the local shops here don't stock it, I haven't seen it at the shows, and I'm loathe to pay those hazmat fees to get it online.

From what I've heard, 52.0 grains of H414 and a 130 grain bullet is supposed to make a great combination.

Has anyone tried Winchester 760 or 780?

Foxman · October 23, 2006, 03:30 PM

I tried Win 760 and it was ok, I also tried Reloader 22 and that 2 was ok, but the 4831sc has given me really consistent performance in all weathers for 9 yrs now, I use Winchester brass as well, I started off with Norma brass which was very good but the 300 used cases I had given got used up and new ones were expensive, I have no complaints with the Winchester brass and it worked up to the same powder load as the norma cases so I was and am happy with what Ive got it shows 2950 over the chrono and the variation is very small. Good luck with yours let us know how it pans out for you.

October 19, 2006, 12:16 AM	#1
trigger45 Senior Member Join Date: October 7, 1999 Location: TEXAS,USA Posts: 322	does anybody load .270 win? All i ever see is .45 this or .44 that or .300 this. where are the riflemen that reload for the .270 win? Ive never had a rifle that a 2 inch high at 100yards is too much for 200 yards.i really like the caliber. ireally want to shoot the rifle more. alread reload .243 win. should i stick with the 60 gr. of h4831, or is there newer better powder for the .270? __________________ 5.56x45, .243win, .308win,8x57mm, 9x19mm,.45acp, .357mag,9x18mm .380acp, .410, .50bp, 12ga. I would like to see a modern 7x57and 8x57 in my safe.

October 21, 2006, 12:30 PM	#11
Foxman Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2005 Posts: 466	I use H4831 sc with Hornady 130 gr spt flat base bullets 60 gr of powder and CCI BR large rifle primers ( in My rifle) it is capable of .5" groups when I am up to it. __________________ Better the man suspected of being a fool keep his mouth shut, than to open it and remove all doubt.

October 22, 2006, 07:25 PM	#13
Ammo Junky Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: IL Posts: 537	rem33, I have seen poi change in all kinds of ways from different bullets / loads. Faster loads tend to hit lower at 100 unless the difference is +400fps, but dont bet your house on it, bullets have no shame in disobeing my predictions. . Left or right there is probably no way at all to predict. I suspect it has to do with recoil curve, bbl time of the load and harmonics. There is no real way to predict. It amases me to see in handguns the same bulllet wt of a different type over the same powder and same mv hit at a different poi. It has to be the recoil and bbl time. FWIW David tub recomends 4350 speed powder up threw 7mm mag. I have not heard of stelar accuracy from 4831 powders. I would love to hear from more of you who used / tried 4831 and how the accuracy compared to other powders. I may have to try some in H4831sc, 180gr, 30-06 loads just to see what it does. AJ __________________ Will work for brass. I apologise in advance for spelling errors.

October 23, 2006, 03:30 PM	#17
Foxman Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2005 Posts: 466	I tried Win 760 and it was ok, I also tried Reloader 22 and that 2 was ok, but the 4831sc has given me really consistent performance in all weathers for 9 yrs now, I use Winchester brass as well, I started off with Norma brass which was very good but the 300 used cases I had given got used up and new ones were expensive, I have no complaints with the Winchester brass and it worked up to the same powder load as the norma cases so I was and am happy with what Ive got it shows 2950 over the chrono and the variation is very small. Good luck with yours let us know how it pans out for you. __________________ Better the man suspected of being a fool keep his mouth shut, than to open it and remove all doubt.

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October 19, 2006, 05:45 AM	#2
arkie2 Senior Member Join Date: September 3, 2006 Posts: 475	I've been reloading for my Savage .270 for about 6 months. I'm using H4350 and Varget with good results.

October 19, 2006, 07:53 AM	#3
firechicken Senior Member Join Date: April 17, 2006 Location: Savannah, MO Posts: 224	H4831 is one of the "standard" 270 Win. powders. I tried it, and did't have much luck......maybe I didn't give it enough time. I use IMR 4350 with excellent results when loading 130gr Nosler Ballistic Tips. I also had good luck with H335 and 90gr HP's.

October 19, 2006, 08:36 AM	#4
hivel37 Senior Member Join Date: August 24, 2004 Location: Hill Country Posts: 522	There are many powders that are newer and maybe better that I haven't tried. What does work with both 130 and 150 gr bullets is 4350 and 4831 Hodgdon and IMR. Since it's now one company, it'll be interesting how the powder lineups change over time.

October 19, 2006, 08:47 AM	#5
rangermonroe Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2005 Location: savannah Posts: 758	I use 130 Nosler bts and h-4895 and imr 4895. I shoot golf balls at 100 yards with that load.

October 21, 2006, 06:35 AM	#6
270Win Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2005 Location: Damascus, Maryland Posts: 921	I've been reloading .270 for years now. Although it's almost a cliche at this point, H4831(SC) really is a fantastic powder for this cartridge. I've tried two or three other powders, with decent-to-good results, but always went back to H4831. For a while, I attempted to shoot Very Long Distances with the .270, using Sierra's 135 grain MatchKings. I ultimately acheived really outstanding accuracy out to about 600 yards, sometimes 700, but no farther. At 1000 it was a real crapshoot, and was highly inconsistant, due partly to insufficient bullet weight. I wish someone would design a high-BC match bullet that was up above 150 or, ideally, 160 grains...

October 21, 2006, 09:06 AM	#7
arkie2 Senior Member Join Date: September 3, 2006 Posts: 475	270 Win I have been shooting 135 g matchkings with really poor results even at 100 yards. Not only am I getting poor groupings but for some reason this bullet consistently shoots 5 inches right of point of aim when I have it zeroed for any other bullet I shoot such as Speer/Hornady/Winchester 130 grain or speer 100 g HP. It's weird. I would be interested to hear what loads you used to get those results.

October 21, 2006, 09:24 AM	#8
270Win Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2005 Location: Damascus, Maryland Posts: 921	Interesting! I had three different loads of H4831SC, a 58.5, a 59.5 and a 60.0c I also tried out H4895 (42 grains), H380 (48 grains) and Varget (45.5 grains), with occasionally good results, but never consistent enough to make me switch. H4895 was the best of those, H380 the worst. The 59.5 load of H4831 was the most accurate. This was all done on Lee dies and equipment, and the platform was a Remington 700 ADL, synthetic stock, standard profile barrel. I waited roughly five minutes between shots in temperate weather. I never had that 5-inch-to-the-right problem, which is definitely unusual. I was getting roughly 4" groups at 500 yards on my better days, which I thought was pretty decent from the various limitations I was working with.

October 21, 2006, 09:36 AM	#9
arkie2 Senior Member Join Date: September 3, 2006 Posts: 475	I've been using H4350. I'm not ready to blame my powder for my poor grouping results yet. I decided to upgrade my scope, bases and rings after my last range trip because the rings were loose at the end of the session. I have a savage 110 and it came with a Simmons scope mounted on aluminum bases and rings. I'm going to Leupold bases and rings and a better scope. Hopefully that will improve my results. However, my scope problems can't begin to explain my 5 in deviation with those sierra MK's.

October 21, 2006, 09:48 AM	#10
rem33 Junior member Join Date: March 31, 2006 Posts: 1,528	I have a 700 that groups different bullet weights level but sideways and have always wondered why. I do load 270 but the rifle is a 30-06 I am refuring to. If sighted center for 150 gr. will shoot 180's a nice group the same height but to the side 4 to 5 inches and when I tried the 55gr. accelerators it was about 9". I have done this on one target and you have 3 groups exactly level but several inches sideways to each other.Like the rifle mentioned above. Anyone have a good explanation why?

October 22, 2006, 05:35 PM	#12
paknheat Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2006 Location: East Texas Posts: 334	I have a model 70 Winchester in .270 Win. I thought it was appropriate. The load it like is 130 gn Hornady SST's pushed along by 61gn of H-4831sc. It is a hot load but i get no indicatation of high pressures,and it produces.25 inch groups at 100yds.

October 22, 2006, 09:33 PM	#14
270Win Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2005 Location: Damascus, Maryland Posts: 921	I had better consistancy with H4831 and H4895 than any other powder, slightly better with those two over the closest IMR powders. H380 was a mess for me, had no luck at all. I have a tough time finding Accurate, Alliant, Vihtavuori (sp?), Winchester, etc. in my neck of the woods, and by the time I make it to the gun shows, they are always sold out. As stated before, for my .270 I tried H4831, H4895, H380 and Varget. H4831 had the best results, overall. The short-cut version also metered very well for me, which was a nice plus. My results were good all things considered. I would like to try R-22, Accurate 2700, IMR7828, and H1000. Especially R-22, I've heard great things about that one. We'll see when I can get my hands on them...

October 22, 2006, 10:26 PM	#15
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2006 Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 979	I must be the weirdo out here. When I reloaded for .270 years ago I used H414.

October 22, 2006, 11:46 PM	#16
270Win Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2005 Location: Damascus, Maryland Posts: 921	No, not at all. I've heard from several other shooters at my range about the virtues of H414, but the local shops here don't stock it, I haven't seen it at the shows, and I'm loathe to pay those hazmat fees to get it online. From what I've heard, 52.0 grains of H414 and a 130 grain bullet is supposed to make a great combination. Has anyone tried Winchester 760 or 780?