chl legal question

SWglockmagnum · October 3, 2012, 02:51 PM

Despite the fact its stupid to do so and generally in bad form, if you have a chl in texas, and someone asks you for id, is it legal for you to flash your chl as a form of id?

This topic came up as a discussion between me and a friend and im curious.

I meam obviously if you are buying a car or opening a bank account and they ask for two forms of id, you can use it as a form of id but i mean like... Buying cigarettes or beer from a convenient store.

Stressfire · October 3, 2012, 05:33 PM

Not in Texas, but I used mine to get my taxes done. HR Block wanted 2 forms of ID, CHL & DL were all I brought

Well, it is a state-issued ID card. It has a birthday and photo. Plus, who would be crazy enough to forge one, since the only people that we have to show them to are the cops

dogtown tom · October 3, 2012, 05:47 PM

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SWglockmagnum Despite the fact its stupid to do so and generally in bad form, if you have a chl in texas, and someone asks you for id, is it legal for you to flash your chl as a form of id?

This topic came up as a discussion between me and a friend and im curious.

I meam obviously if you are buying a car or opening a bank account and they ask for two forms of id, you can use it as a form of id but i mean like... Buying cigarettes or beer from a convenient store.

You can wear your CHL on a lanyard around your neck if you want.
I'm not sure why you would wonder if its legal to use as an ID....since that is exactly what it is.

It's up to the business if they will accept a CHL as proof of age, as it's a government issued photo ID and perfectly acceptable as ID ....even for boarding an airline flight.

Double Naught Spy · October 3, 2012, 05:59 PM

A Texas CHL is not a legal form of identification according to DPS. That is, in part, due to the fact that they can't verify the pics sent in with you except looking at your DL image.

With that said, my bank takes it as a second form of ID. Lots of places will, but some will not as it isn't truly ID.

Glenn E. Meyer · October 3, 2012, 06:45 PM

I vaguely remember that in the current voter ID debate, one photo form that was proposed to be acceptable was the CHL. Might be wrong on that.

wally626 · October 4, 2012, 05:02 PM

In VA the CHP is valid ID for voting but it does not have a picture. Can be used as second ID for things like buying a gun. I think it is only primary for voting.

Double Naught Spy · October 4, 2012, 05:51 PM

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In VA the CHP is valid ID for voting but it does not have a picture.

How can anything without a picture be a valid ID? LOL.

Crankgrinder · October 4, 2012, 08:41 PM

you have to have pictures taken, fingerprints taken, forms filled out and provide proof of residency, looks just like a dl on top of that, id say its an id alright. Still wouldnt flash it for one though.

ChuckS · October 5, 2012, 09:18 AM

Strangely enough in PA the LTCF, even though it does include picture and address, it is NOT considered valid ID for voting purposes. LOL, so much for consistency.

wally626 · October 6, 2012, 01:03 PM

The VA CHP does not require fingerprints anymore. You need a clean criminal record, mental health, gun safety course. You need to have a valid photo ID to submit the form for the initial permit. It is slightly more restrictive than the requirements to buy a gun, but not by much. The CHP as ID for voting is a result the Voter ID law requirements being very weak. Probably why it was not rejected like other states have had theirs rejected lately. The VA permit is just a small piece of paper signed by the Judge, not even laminated in my county. You are required to carry a separate photo ID.

SWglockmagnum · October 10, 2012, 10:10 AM

awesome... thanks guys!

Harryball · October 10, 2012, 11:30 AM

Im in MI and have used mine for another form of ID.

Kreyzhorse · October 11, 2012, 06:53 AM

It is state issued so it wouldn't be illegal to use. Not sure how widely accepted it would be however.

I have no experience using mine as ID here in Kentucky but I do know someone who used his Florida license as ID to board an airplane.

KyJim · October 11, 2012, 06:59 PM

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How can anything without a picture be a valid ID? LOL.

"Back in the day," I found myself in possession of a draft card that had no no photo on it. Yet, I could use it to purchase items legally available only to those 21 or older. Funny, the name was different than mine and it listed my height at 6'-4" and I'm really only 5'-7" and my age as 24 when I was 17. It really varies from place to place on what an acceptable ID is.

October 3, 2012, 02:51 PM	#1
SWglockmagnum Junior member Join Date: November 18, 2011 Posts: 101	chl legal question Despite the fact its stupid to do so and generally in bad form, if you have a chl in texas, and someone asks you for id, is it legal for you to flash your chl as a form of id? This topic came up as a discussion between me and a friend and im curious. I meam obviously if you are buying a car or opening a bank account and they ask for two forms of id, you can use it as a form of id but i mean like... Buying cigarettes or beer from a convenient store.

October 3, 2012, 05:33 PM	#2
Stressfire Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,497	Not in Texas, but I used mine to get my taxes done. HR Block wanted 2 forms of ID, CHL & DL were all I brought Well, it is a state-issued ID card. It has a birthday and photo. Plus, who would be crazy enough to forge one, since the only people that we have to show them to are the cops __________________ "The best diplomat I know is a fully charged phaser bank" - Montgomery Scott

October 3, 2012, 05:59 PM	#4
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,716	A Texas CHL is not a legal form of identification according to DPS. That is, in part, due to the fact that they can't verify the pics sent in with you except looking at your DL image. With that said, my bank takes it as a second form of ID. Lots of places will, but some will not as it isn't truly ID. __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

October 3, 2012, 06:45 PM	#5
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	I vaguely remember that in the current voter ID debate, one photo form that was proposed to be acceptable was the CHL. Might be wrong on that. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

October 10, 2012, 11:30 AM	#12
Harryball Junior Member Join Date: October 10, 2012 Location: Lansing Mi Posts: 5	Im in MI and have used mine for another form of ID. __________________ www.citizenxdefense.2ya.com

October 4, 2012, 05:02 PM	#6
wally626 Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2009 Posts: 642	In VA the CHP is valid ID for voting but it does not have a picture. Can be used as second ID for things like buying a gun. I think it is only primary for voting.

October 4, 2012, 08:41 PM	#8
Crankgrinder Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 917	you have to have pictures taken, fingerprints taken, forms filled out and provide proof of residency, looks just like a dl on top of that, id say its an id alright. Still wouldnt flash it for one though.

October 5, 2012, 09:18 AM	#9
ChuckS Member Join Date: March 4, 2009 Location: Albion, PA Posts: 93	Strangely enough in PA the LTCF, even though it does include picture and address, it is NOT considered valid ID for voting purposes. LOL, so much for consistency.

October 6, 2012, 01:03 PM	#10
wally626 Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2009 Posts: 642	The VA CHP does not require fingerprints anymore. You need a clean criminal record, mental health, gun safety course. You need to have a valid photo ID to submit the form for the initial permit. It is slightly more restrictive than the requirements to buy a gun, but not by much. The CHP as ID for voting is a result the Voter ID law requirements being very weak. Probably why it was not rejected like other states have had theirs rejected lately. The VA permit is just a small piece of paper signed by the Judge, not even laminated in my county. You are required to carry a separate photo ID.

October 10, 2012, 10:10 AM	#11
SWglockmagnum Junior member Join Date: November 18, 2011 Posts: 101	awesome... thanks guys!

October 11, 2012, 06:53 AM	#13
Kreyzhorse Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2006 Location: NKY Posts: 12,463	It is state issued so it wouldn't be illegal to use. Not sure how widely accepted it would be however. I have no experience using mine as ID here in Kentucky but I do know someone who used his Florida license as ID to board an airplane. __________________ "He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson

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