Help me identify this gun from WW2

diggs · February 27, 2006, 06:39 PM

A WW2 vet I work with was wondering if I could get a mag for him, so I told him to bring it in. Well, he brought it in and I am clueless. Any help would be great.

thanks
diggs

diggs · February 27, 2006, 06:40 PM

The image that the pencil is ponting to looks like a crown. The bore diameter is 9mm, but it looks very short.

diggs · February 27, 2006, 06:42 PM

diggs

Steven Mace · February 27, 2006, 07:06 PM

diggs, it looks like the pistol you're describing is a Fegyver es Gepgyar (FEG) Model 1937. The Model 1937 was designed by Rudolf Frommer and made by FEG in Budapest, Hungary. The 9mm version is actually chambered in .380 ACP. Numrich Gun Parts Corp. lists a magazine for the Model 1937 at the link below.

http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.as...ductSKU=307230

Hope this helps!

Steve Mace

diggs · February 27, 2006, 07:07 PM

Ok, I found out it was a Hungarian firearm that shoots 9mm shorts. Now for my next question were can I find a mag. or 9mm short.

Thanks,
diggs

Dfariswheel · February 27, 2006, 07:16 PM

As above, Gun Parts sell replacement magazines.

The 9mm "Short" in America is the .380 ACP.
In Europe it's variously known as the 9mm Kurz, 9mm Corto, 9mm Short, and 9mm Browning.

Over hear we just call it the .380.

diggs · February 27, 2006, 07:32 PM

Thanks guys, yet another reason this is a great site, because of the people.

thanks
diggs

James K · February 27, 2006, 10:29 PM

The same gun was made for the Germans in 7.65mm Browning, or .32 ACP. The original Hungarian gun (as shown) was in 9mm Browning Short (.380 ACP) but the barrels interchange, so make sure which caliber it is before buying ammo. They are very sturdy and reliable guns.

That one is a nice collector's piece as many seen here are the ones made for Germany with the "jhv" code instead of the full markings. The trigger guard mark is the Hungarian crown military acceptance stamp. Top value is around $375, less with a reproduction magazine, which is all that is available today without a lot of time and patience spent looking.

Edited to add:

The slide markings translate as Frommer Firearms and Machine Factory, Ltd. It was in Budapest. The same factory is now producing the quite good FEG line of pistols, including a BHP clone.

Jim

Harley Nolden · February 28, 2006, 05:56 AM

Oh My! Do we have twins?

HJN

February 27, 2006, 06:40 PM	#2
diggs Member Join Date: July 6, 2005 Location: lincoln, nebraska Posts: 53	a couple more pics The image that the pencil is ponting to looks like a crown. The bore diameter is 9mm, but it looks very short. __________________ DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS

February 27, 2006, 07:06 PM	#4
Steven Mace Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 1999 Location: Clifton, Colorado USA Posts: 724	diggs, it looks like the pistol you're describing is a Fegyver es Gepgyar (FEG) Model 1937. The Model 1937 was designed by Rudolf Frommer and made by FEG in Budapest, Hungary. The 9mm version is actually chambered in .380 ACP. Numrich Gun Parts Corp. lists a magazine for the Model 1937 at the link below. http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.as...ductSKU=307230 Hope this helps! Steve Mace __________________ After today, its all historical

February 27, 2006, 07:07 PM	#5
diggs Member Join Date: July 6, 2005 Location: lincoln, nebraska Posts: 53	Hungarian Ok, I found out it was a Hungarian firearm that shoots 9mm shorts. Now for my next question were can I find a mag. or 9mm short. Thanks, diggs __________________ DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS

February 27, 2006, 07:32 PM	#7
diggs Member Join Date: July 6, 2005 Location: lincoln, nebraska Posts: 53	posted at the same time Thanks guys, yet another reason this is a great site, because of the people. thanks diggs __________________ DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS

February 27, 2006, 07:16 PM	#6
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	As above, Gun Parts sell replacement magazines. The 9mm "Short" in America is the .380 ACP. In Europe it's variously known as the 9mm Kurz, 9mm Corto, 9mm Short, and 9mm Browning. Over hear we just call it the .380.

February 27, 2006, 10:29 PM	#8
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	The same gun was made for the Germans in 7.65mm Browning, or .32 ACP. The original Hungarian gun (as shown) was in 9mm Browning Short (.380 ACP) but the barrels interchange, so make sure which caliber it is before buying ammo. They are very sturdy and reliable guns. That one is a nice collector's piece as many seen here are the ones made for Germany with the "jhv" code instead of the full markings. The trigger guard mark is the Hungarian crown military acceptance stamp. Top value is around $375, less with a reproduction magazine, which is all that is available today without a lot of time and patience spent looking. Edited to add: The slide markings translate as Frommer Firearms and Machine Factory, Ltd. It was in Budapest. The same factory is now producing the quite good FEG line of pistols, including a BHP clone. Jim