Sweet! Remington has announced a new handgun...

**Mike Irwin** · January 2, 2014, 09:07 AM

It looks a lot like an old handgun, but appearances can be very deceiving!

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...s-r-51-pistol/

While the action is based on the Pedersen system, not much else is the same. It's got a positive-action grip safety, it's in 9mm +P, and most importantly, MSRP is BELOW $400!

I've always wanted a Remington Model 51, but I've never been able to justify the price for a really nice one.

This may very well take care of that desire.

Am I excited?

Yep, just a little bit.

AK103K · January 2, 2014, 09:38 AM

Quote:

I've always wanted a Remington Model 51, but I've never been able to justify the price for a really nice one.

This may very well take care of that desire.

Am I excited?

Yep, just a little bit.

Yup. Me too.

I still want a 51 too though.

When is the new one supposed to be available? I seem to have missed that part.

lee n. field · January 2, 2014, 09:48 AM

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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...s-r-51-pistol/

Oh, that is interesting. From an esthetic standpoint, if nothing else.

Get me one in .45.

**Mike Irwin** · January 2, 2014, 09:57 AM

Looks like it's supposed to be released in February.

MSRP is $389, which means you'll probably be seeing them at the $330 to $350 mark.

And, I finally figured it out.

It looks like the bastard love child of a Remington 51 and a Whitney Wolverine!

AK103K · January 2, 2014, 10:05 AM

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It looks like the bastard love child of a Remington 51 and a Whitney Wolverine!

Yes it does! I was trying to figure that out myself, and I think you nailed it.

Uncle Malice · January 2, 2014, 10:06 AM

Parent article: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...s-r-51-pistol/

Remington recently announces this new gun, seemingly marketed to the CCW community. Personally, I think it's ugly as sin; based on the original model 51 from just about 100 years ago. I'm sure there are people out there who want the all metal design though. They are saying that it has an excellent 1911-ish trigger, so that may be a good thing. I guess I'll have to see one in person. At this point, I'm not terribly impressed by the aesthetics.

Photos from the article at The Firearm Blog:

Cheapshooter · January 2, 2014, 10:20 AM

Maybe It will look better in person!

**Mike Irwin** · January 2, 2014, 10:23 AM

I actually don't think that it looks that bad.

It's certainly different looking I will give it that.

Cheapshooter · January 2, 2014, 10:37 AM

The funny thing is that I actually like the classic look of the original 51. Might just be that cooked look of the new one.
The more I look at It the more I begin to like It. Kind of like the politically incorrect joke about larger women and mopeds.

JWT · January 2, 2014, 10:43 AM

Very interesting design from an aesthetic standpoint. I like it. If the quality is decent it should be a big seller at less than $400.

TunnelRat · January 2, 2014, 10:45 AM

The only thing that strikes me as off aesthetics wise is the rear sight. The dots for the rear sight are actually forward in the dovetail. It looks like it was done to make them less likely to snag, but it's pretty much the opposite of most pistols on the market.

**Spats McGee** · January 2, 2014, 10:54 AM

I've been looking at these pictures off and on for about 2 hours now, trying to decide if I like it. I think I like it, but I'm still not entirely sure. Honestly, first thought was that it looks like something that Ming the Merciless would carry. I am certain that I'd like to shoot one, though.

Grundy53 · January 2, 2014, 11:04 AM

I want one. I like the looks.

Pond, James Pond · January 2, 2014, 11:18 AM

I think it looks very nice and seems to combine two things that I've always liked but never found combined: 9x19 and the blowback design.

Most of the guns I find most pleasing to the eye are blowbacks: The Astra Constable, Sig P232, even the Makarov has a certain flare that I enjoy. This gun does the same for me: I find the lines very attractive.

What a shame then that one will probably never reach these shores!!

DannyB1954 · January 2, 2014, 11:23 AM

It will look just fine in my pocket.
I like the Makarov size pistol, I just want one in 9mm. This one may be it.

Glenn E. Meyer · January 2, 2014, 11:24 AM

Looking at the page - there's a new Sig in 380 - so that isn't dead either, given the Glock entry.

I like the Remington. Now how to get it into the house?

SaxonPig · January 2, 2014, 11:38 AM

First another copy of the 1911 and now this. Remington seems to be getting into the handgun market. Maybe they'll make the Python and Diamondback since Colt doesn't think they can make a profit on guns selling for up to 8K.

**Mike Irwin** · January 2, 2014, 11:43 AM

"Maybe they'll make the Python and Diamondback..."

Thar's profit in them thar ventilated ribs!

Wreck-n-Crew · January 2, 2014, 11:44 AM

Throw some dirt on it...

My first impression was that it looked like Kel-Tec designed an updated version of the P-51!

Please tell me those are not rivets on the grip! Could have made them look less like rivets. Maybe black instead of bling?! First thing I would replace is those.

KMAX · January 2, 2014, 11:56 AM

The rear angle photos make the gun look sort of funky, but the profile shot looks a lot better. I kind of like it from the pics. It may look better or worse "live". I have said that if I could find a PPK in 9mm I would buy it. This might fit the bill. AFAIK there is no 9mm PPK. I just like the look and feel of the PPK, but not so thrilled by 380acp. The price of this gun looks good if the quality is acceptable. It is nice to see something kind of new coming on the market.

TunnelRat · January 2, 2014, 11:59 AM

The more I look at it the more I like it. I'd definitely be interested in seeing one in the flesh.

dehughes · January 2, 2014, 12:14 PM

I want one.

**Tom Servo** · January 2, 2014, 12:53 PM

Oh my. I've always loved the design, and now it's chambered for a useful cartridge.

If I'm not wrong, it looks like the grips are replaceable, too.

carguychris · January 2, 2014, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dehughes

I want one.

Me too! (Or me three. Or four?

)

I'm been contemplating buying an inexpensive single-stack 9mm for CCW, and I'm glad I saw this before I put down any $$ on a Ruger LC9, as I'm really not too fond of the trigger on the Ruger.

JHansenAK47 · January 2, 2014, 01:23 PM

Looks like Remington might have designed a winner. A nice trigger with a fixed barrel in a under 400$ gun does have a potential for being an excellent out the box shooter.

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If I'm not wrong, it looks like the grips are replaceable, too.

With the grip safety the backstrap is permanent. The grip panels may be indexed though, but may be too thin for wood.

January 2, 2014, 09:07 AM	#1
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Sweet! Remington has announced a new handgun... It looks a lot like an old handgun, but appearances can be very deceiving! http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...s-r-51-pistol/ While the action is based on the Pedersen system, not much else is the same. It's got a positive-action grip safety, it's in 9mm +P, and most importantly, MSRP is BELOW $400! I've always wanted a Remington Model 51, but I've never been able to justify the price for a really nice one. This may very well take care of that desire. Am I excited? Yep, just a little bit. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

January 2, 2014, 09:57 AM	#4
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Looks like it's supposed to be released in February. MSRP is $389, which means you'll probably be seeing them at the $330 to $350 mark. And, I finally figured it out. It looks like the bastard love child of a Remington 51 and a Whitney Wolverine! __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

January 2, 2014, 10:06 AM	#6
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	Remington announces new R-51 single-stack 9mm Parent article: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...s-r-51-pistol/ Remington recently announces this new gun, seemingly marketed to the CCW community. Personally, I think it's ugly as sin; based on the original model 51 from just about 100 years ago. I'm sure there are people out there who want the all metal design though. They are saying that it has an excellent 1911-ish trigger, so that may be a good thing. I guess I'll have to see one in person. At this point, I'm not terribly impressed by the aesthetics. Photos from the article at The Firearm Blog: __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

January 2, 2014, 10:20 AM	#7
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	Maybe It will look better in person! __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!

January 2, 2014, 10:23 AM	#8
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	I actually don't think that it looks that bad. It's certainly different looking I will give it that. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

January 2, 2014, 10:37 AM	#9
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	The funny thing is that I actually like the classic look of the original 51. Might just be that cooked look of the new one. The more I look at It the more I begin to like It. Kind of like the politically incorrect joke about larger women and mopeds. __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!

January 2, 2014, 10:43 AM	#10
JWT Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2007 Location: Southern Arizona Posts: 3,888	Very interesting design from an aesthetic standpoint. I like it. If the quality is decent it should be a big seller at less than $400.

January 2, 2014, 10:45 AM	#11
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,212	The only thing that strikes me as off aesthetics wise is the rear sight. The dots for the rear sight are actually forward in the dovetail. It looks like it was done to make them less likely to snag, but it's pretty much the opposite of most pistols on the market. __________________ Know the status of your weapon Keep your muzzle oriented so that no one will be hurt if the firearm discharges Keep your finger off the trigger until you have an adequate sight picture Maintain situational awareness

January 2, 2014, 10:54 AM	#12
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	I've been looking at these pictures off and on for about 2 hours now, trying to decide if I like it. I think I like it, but I'm still not entirely sure. Honestly, first thought was that it looks like something that Ming the Merciless would carry. I am certain that I'd like to shoot one, though. __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

January 2, 2014, 11:04 AM	#13
Grundy53 Member Join Date: November 24, 2013 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 47	I want one. I like the looks.

January 2, 2014, 11:18 AM	#14
Pond, James Pond Senior Member Join Date: July 12, 2011 Location: Top of the Baltic stack Posts: 6,079	I think it looks very nice and seems to combine two things that I've always liked but never found combined: 9x19 and the blowback design. Most of the guns I find most pleasing to the eye are blowbacks: The Astra Constable, Sig P232, even the Makarov has a certain flare that I enjoy. This gun does the same for me: I find the lines very attractive. What a shame then that one will probably never reach these shores!! __________________ When the right to effective self-defence is denied, that right to self-defence which remains is essentially symbolic. Freedom: Please enjoy responsibly.

January 2, 2014, 11:23 AM	#15
DannyB1954 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2013 Location: Pahrump Nv USA Posts: 480	It will look just fine in my pocket. I like the Makarov size pistol, I just want one in 9mm. This one may be it.

January 2, 2014, 11:24 AM	#16
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Looking at the page - there's a new Sig in 380 - so that isn't dead either, given the Glock entry. I like the Remington. Now how to get it into the house? __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

January 2, 2014, 11:38 AM	#17
SaxonPig Senior Member Join Date: April 24, 2006 Posts: 1,900	First another copy of the 1911 and now this. Remington seems to be getting into the handgun market. Maybe they'll make the Python and Diamondback since Colt doesn't think they can make a profit on guns selling for up to 8K.

January 2, 2014, 11:43 AM	#18
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	"Maybe they'll make the Python and Diamondback..." Thar's profit in them thar ventilated ribs! __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

January 2, 2014, 11:44 AM	#19
Wreck-n-Crew Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2013 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,820	Throw some dirt on it... My first impression was that it looked like Kel-Tec designed an updated version of the P-51! Please tell me those are not rivets on the grip! Could have made them look less like rivets. Maybe black instead of bling?! First thing I would replace is those. __________________ If you ever have to use a firearm, *you don't get to pick the scenario!*

January 2, 2014, 11:56 AM	#20
KMAX Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 1,185	The rear angle photos make the gun look sort of funky, but the profile shot looks a lot better. I kind of like it from the pics. It may look better or worse "live". I have said that if I could find a PPK in 9mm I would buy it. This might fit the bill. AFAIK there is no 9mm PPK. I just like the look and feel of the PPK, but not so thrilled by 380acp. The price of this gun looks good if the quality is acceptable. It is nice to see something kind of new coming on the market. __________________ This is my gun. There are many like her, but this one is mine. I'm not old. I'm CLASSIC!

January 2, 2014, 11:59 AM	#21
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,212	The more I look at it the more I like it. I'd definitely be interested in seeing one in the flesh. __________________ Know the status of your weapon Keep your muzzle oriented so that no one will be hurt if the firearm discharges Keep your finger off the trigger until you have an adequate sight picture Maintain situational awareness

January 2, 2014, 12:14 PM	#22
dehughes Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2009 Posts: 105	I want one. __________________ Tempus Edax Rerum

January 2, 2014, 12:53 PM	#23
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	Oh my. I've always loved the design, and now it's chambered for a useful cartridge. If I'm not wrong, it looks like the grips are replaceable, too. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe