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January 23, 2013, 04:50 PM | #1 | |
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Biden "fireside chat" on gun control, Thurs. Jan 24 1:45PM ET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYlkknrku4
Our esteemed [Vice] President Biden has attempted to educate the masses, explaining to us why we don't actually have a right to semi-automatic weapons with more than 5 or 7 or 10 round magazines, why registration or another AWB is no big deal, etc.; how gun control would be a great victory against criminals, would save The Children, etc. Food for thought: Quote:
"Banning guns is an idea whose time has come." --Joe Biden, 1993-11-18, quoted by the AP
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January 23, 2013, 06:44 PM | #2 |
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So Google has decided to mouthpiece for Biden.
I notice Dave Kopel, Alan Gura or John Lott, to piock a few, are not invited to "hang" with Biden. Who are those guys who are. I sense a lovefest in the making. I clicked on Guy Kawasaki and he is some kind of author. More interesting are the questions posted for him to ask the Great Man...I might add one or two. One already is inquiring why Mexican cartels can have them and we can't, and a number more in that vein. I suspect Biden will only get the softballs, but his fellow "hangers" might learn something from well-thought questions.
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January 23, 2013, 07:22 PM | #3 |
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Kawasaki is more of an evangelist-for-hire than anything.
https://plus.google.com/+GuyKawasaki/posts Philip DeFranco is one of the early youtube success stories. His channel is a low-content current-events recap, or at least it used to be. https://plus.google.com/+PhilipDeFranco/posts Another alleged participant is this internet video personality: https://plus.google.com/+KimberleyBlaine/posts http://www.thegotomom.tv/ What's confusing is that they have someone from PBS moderating this "chat". Does that mean one of the participants is going to be pro-gun, or is this going to be a "moderated" pro-gun-control love-fest?
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January 23, 2013, 07:26 PM | #4 |
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Disgusting.
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January 23, 2013, 09:22 PM | #5 |
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Biden appears to have changed his mind since he was stumpin' for his boss. There were a bunch of Biden pro-gun videos a few days ago, but they seem to have fallen into the memory hole, or at least I can't find them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT-ueNjc_D0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JVPhNTypB8 Here's one of the POTUS saying "I'm not going to take your guns away". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkUpp22fHyw
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January 24, 2013, 11:20 AM | #6 |
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Google is simply the vehicle, much like a tv network that hosts anything. I would much rather see Google allowing anyone to use their services regardless of their political views and opinions than have them dictate what can be shared.
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January 24, 2013, 12:09 PM | #7 |
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I just received this from the White House ...
Probably because I signed a petition last year ...
**************************************** Watch Joe Biden at 1:45 PM ET Before Vice President Joe Biden introduced a set of ideas to help reduce gun violence, he kicked off a national conversation. He wanted to make sure that he heard from people from every perspective about the steps we need to take to protect kids and make our communities safer. And that dialogue isn't over. Today, in a hangout hosted by Google and moderated by Hari Sreenivasan from PBS NewsHour, Vice President Biden will speak with a group of Google+ users about the White House policy recommendations and answer their questions. And we want you to join us. What: Google+ Hangout with Vice President Joe Biden When: Thursday, January 24 at 1:45 PM ET Where: Live on WhiteHouse.gov ************************************** Anyone got any time to watch and tell the rest of us what the idiot Biden has to say?
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January 24, 2013, 01:11 PM | #8 |
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I have a job unlike most of the idiots he's appealing to so....
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January 24, 2013, 01:14 PM | #9 |
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While I am off from work today, I see no reason to waste my time listening to someone I have ZERO respect for...
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January 24, 2013, 01:16 PM | #10 |
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I'll try get in on that...
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January 24, 2013, 01:17 PM | #11 | |
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This is really good propaganda:
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So join something like the NRA. The implication is that every member will vote a certain way and use this issue as the basis for that vote. Donate money to an advocacy group. Money talks. |
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January 24, 2013, 01:31 PM | #12 | |
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I just had a look at the white house website, here's what they had to say about this google+ hangout...
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I suspect that it's going to be filled with a bunch of bigwigs that hate guns, just so that the white house can feel better about the stupid they're pushing to get legislated. Kind of a 'tell me my ideas are good so I can try them out, because i'm not entirely sure it's the right thing to do'.
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January 24, 2013, 01:58 PM | #13 |
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10 minutes in, and it appears that it's not working. either they're having technical difficulties, they haven't started yet, or they're not allowing us to see it...
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January 24, 2013, 02:09 PM | #14 |
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Biden: (paraphrased) Even though assault weapons represent a small percentage of guns used in gun crimes, we need an assault weapon ban because cops are out-gunned.
Biden: "You don't have a right to... F15 fighters... tanks... automatic weapons..." Wrong, Mr. VP. We do have a right to go out and buy automatic weapons in most states, if we can afford it and want to jump through the NFA hoops.
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January 24, 2013, 02:14 PM | #15 |
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Good point, Ralgha, thank you.
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January 24, 2013, 02:21 PM | #16 |
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Good lord... He actually is claiming that police are being outgunned, and that's why we need another AWB.
Wow. They're trying to completely reframe the argument.
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January 24, 2013, 02:22 PM | #17 |
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Wow. Couldn't take much more of that.
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January 24, 2013, 02:34 PM | #18 |
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The guy didn't even take time to learn the lingo. He has no idea what he's talking about.
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January 24, 2013, 02:35 PM | #19 |
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VP Biden brought up CDC statistic gathering about firearms, and compared this to gathering statistics on vehicle accidents.
The difference is that when guns kill people, they're operating correctly. Gathering statistics would only really demonstrate which ammo is more lethal, or which guns are more lethal, but everyone wants guns that are more accurate, and more effective, which translates to higher lethality for hunting or self defense. Gathering stats on this is completely pointless from the perspective of public safety. VP Biden: "Harder to use an assault weapon to hit something than ... [to use a] shotgun. If you want to keep someone away during an earthquake, buy some shotgun shells." Oh My God. VP Biden: "...Glocks... magazines that can hold 2 10 8 12 30 shells in it." VP Biden: "There is no diminution of your ability to defend yourself having 10 clips in a round... I mean ten shells... instead of [30+]."
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That was six different kinds of useless.
In typical political fashion Vice president Biden refrained form answering some of the questions by talking about something kind of similar. In my mind, nothing was gained from this 'fireside chat'.
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January 24, 2013, 02:41 PM | #21 |
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And there are many legitimate sporting applications for 30 round magazines.
Here's one; 3 gun competition.
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January 24, 2013, 04:18 PM | #22 |
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Clearly Biden is hoping to appeal to those who are as uninformed as he is- I just hope that the NRA can get ahead of this and start using social media and other sources to start pushing the facts. For starters, they have 40 years worth of what the city of Chicago has become to use as an excellent example of what happens when the populace is disarmed.
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Not to mention you have to use the US Service rifle or Civilian Equivalent. That's PRESIDENTS MATCH, not sure this president knows about it.
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I have to admire this administration and them Dems overall for their agit/prop skills. today's "chat" was a clinic on how a rather extreme viewpoint can be packaged for the less than aware population. We can learn a lot from them.
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