Carbide Dies for straight-walled rifle cases

Strazznah · August 21, 2013, 10:43 AM

Can anyone tell me why they do not make Carbide Dies for straight-walled rifle cases? Seems to me that these would be no different than straight-walled pistol cases, or am I missing something? (I hate lubing cases)

m&p45acp10+1 · August 21, 2013, 11:04 AM

Most straight walled rifle cases are not straght. They are tapered, and require lube even with carbide dies. Two examples that I reload are .45-70 Gov't., and .30 Carbine. The dies are carbide, though if I try to run an unlubed case into them, it takes way too much force. I lightly lube them, then either wipe it off, or tumble them for an hour in the vibratory tumbler.

Nick_C_S · August 21, 2013, 05:48 PM

What about 444 Marlin? Isn't that a truly straight walled case?

(I have no rifle loading experience.)

Ozzieman · August 21, 2013, 07:23 PM

No the 444 Marlin is .4530 at the mouth and .4698 at the base of the case just before the rim.

Nick_C_S · August 21, 2013, 08:02 PM

^-- Noted.

August 21, 2013, 10:43 AM	#1
Strazznah Member Join Date: January 12, 2009 Location: O'Fallon, MO Posts: 47	Carbide Dies for straight-walled rifle cases Can anyone tell me why they do not make Carbide Dies for straight-walled rifle cases? Seems to me that these would be no different than straight-walled pistol cases, or am I missing something? (I hate lubing cases) __________________ "As you swim the river of life, do the breast stroke. It helps to clear the turds from your path." -George Carlin

August 21, 2013, 11:04 AM	#2
m&p45acp10+1 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 3,930	Most straight walled rifle cases are not straght. They are tapered, and require lube even with carbide dies. Two examples that I reload are .45-70 Gov't., and .30 Carbine. The dies are carbide, though if I try to run an unlubed case into them, it takes way too much force. I lightly lube them, then either wipe it off, or tumble them for an hour in the vibratory tumbler. __________________ No matter how many times you do it and nothing happens it only takes something going wrong one time to kill you.

August 21, 2013, 05:48 PM	#3
Nick_C_S Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2013 Location: Idaho Posts: 5,523	What about 444 Marlin? Isn't that a truly straight walled case? (I have no rifle loading experience.) __________________ Gun control laws benefit only criminals and politicians - but then, I repeat myself. Life Member, National Rifle Association

August 21, 2013, 07:23 PM	#4
Ozzieman Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 6,117	No the 444 Marlin is .4530 at the mouth and .4698 at the base of the case just before the rim. __________________ It was a sad day when I discovered my universal remote control did not in fact control the universe. Did you hear about the latest study.....5 out of 6 liberals say that Russian Roulette is safe.

August 21, 2013, 08:02 PM	#5
Nick_C_S Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2013 Location: Idaho Posts: 5,523	^-- Noted. __________________ Gun control laws benefit only criminals and politicians - but then, I repeat myself. Life Member, National Rifle Association