min shot size for hogs? - Page 2

Brian Pfleuger · September 9, 2011, 07:24 PM

I'd MUCH sooner hunt them with a 22mag than 12ga birdshot.

Hog Buster · September 9, 2011, 09:36 PM

Use bird shot for pig hunting?............. Yeah, when pigs fly..........

1911rocks · September 9, 2011, 09:58 PM

That was funny I don't care who you are!!

C0untZer0 · September 10, 2011, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Use bird shot for pig hunting?............. Yeah, when pigs fly..........

nice one...

bamaranger · September 10, 2011, 02:40 AM

We have a similat situation in AL. On public lands, only the firearm legal for the specific season at hand is legal for hogs. Thus, in small game season, only a shotgun w/ bird shot ( the reg gives a specific size) or a rimfire rifle is legal a lot of the times, .......or bows.......or muzzle loaders UNDER .40 cal.

Guys who want to hunt hogs on the WMA's during small game seasons are for the most part using scoped .22 mags w/ heavy bullets, some even FMJ, and aiming for the neck skull junction/base of ear.

I would not intentially brace a hog at any range w/ fine shot from a shot gun, would not really trust buck past 25-30 yds from a tight choked gun, and would prefer a slug or real rifle.

wpcexpert · September 10, 2011, 08:44 AM

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My post was more in response to the one suggesting the lethality of 3.5" #4 at 10 yards...

Check the post, I said 10 feet.

Whatever guys, It was a hypothetical situation that I would be more than comfortable being in. Also, I don't know why one would assume I would be killing the biggest baddest hog I could find. Either way, at 10 FEET and 2 oz of lead, no matter if solid or in small pieces, is going to put a long deep whole in a critter.

Nuff on the subject, its a moot subject.

LSnSC · September 10, 2011, 01:46 PM

Ive killed a couple of hogs while turkey hunting. They wandered into my setup and got a load of copper plated #5's between the blinkers. DRT. At short range, 20 yds or less, with a tight choke it will kill the snot out of them.
Watched a friend roll two with Hevi Shot Dead Coyote loads Range was about 25 yds and shot was to head and neck. All were pigs about 50-60 lbs. Not my first choice of loads but they worked.

FWIW, A shotgun with buckshot kills the crap out of them if the user is at least moderately competent. Ive killed dozens with #1 buck out of a Beretta 390.

MLeake · September 10, 2011, 02:41 PM

Depends where you are hunting, and on your luck. I've been out on days where the small hogs were 125lbs, and the big ones in the 250-300lb class.

As far as whether you'd go looking for the biggest, baddest hog, wpcexpert, in a way that doesn't matter.

I've known more than a couple of people who've shot one hog, only to have others come at them, instead of running away. I'd say the norm is that they'll scatter. Then again, I've had somebody else scatter a couple big ones right at me before.

If you go out in hog country, no matter what you are looking for, you may just run into that big, bad hog you didn't really want. I'd rather not do that with a birdshot load.

graysmoke · September 10, 2011, 03:22 PM

I only hunt large Hog with my .357 Ruger Black Hawk handgun.
Up to 20 feet - one shot in the head is just fine.....Of-course you got to be an accurate shooter.

natman · September 11, 2011, 02:19 AM

It sounds like what's going on is this - there's no season on hogs. However, there are seasonal gun and ammo restrictions for hunting other animals. In order to keep people from violating the gun and ammo restrictions by claiming "I'm hunting hogs", Fish and Game has decreed that you have to use whatever ammo is in season at the time. As far as I am concerned, that means you can't hunt hogs during birdshot season, because it's not going to be suitable for hogs at any time of the year.

Grant D · September 11, 2011, 08:37 AM

This is from Texas Parks and Wildlife......

How do I hunt feral hogs?

Although feral hogs are not classified as game animals, a hunting license is required to hunt them. Feral hogs are very intelligent and considered to be challenging quarry. Many hunters consider the long tusks and mean appearance a genuine trophy, in addition to the quality of meat. They also provide a great off-season challenge and opportunities to hone hunting skills and spend time in the field.

There are many hunting techniques used, including stand hunting over a baited area, quite often incidental to white-tailed deer hunting. Stalking or still hunting over baited areas and areas indicating recent hog activity, such as wallows, are commonly used techniques. Corn or milo, often soaked in water and allowed to sour and then buried underground is good bait.

Night hunting with a spotlight is often used; however, the local game warden must be notified beforehand. (There are certain laws which prohibit using artificial light where deer are known to range.) Hunting with well-trained dogs is another hunting method utilized and can be very exciting. Because the feral hog has such a tough hide the best rifle calibers to use should be a .243 or greater to prevent wounding and loss of the animal. Bowhunting, muzzleloading, and handguns are also popular among sportsmen to hunt feral hogs.

I've hunted hogs in my backyard here in Texas and I've never heard of a caliber restriction on hog hunting in this state.
A guy I work with uses dogs and a Bowie knife!
( I use my 30-30 )

banditt007 · September 11, 2011, 10:10 PM

I have your solution. STEEL slugs = non-toxic. Enjoy.

http://www.ddupleks.lv/EN/articles/show/products

SRH78 · September 13, 2011, 10:34 AM

I would be very suprised if you are not allowed to hunt with archery equipment, which would be your best bet.

stegar1 · September 13, 2011, 02:17 PM

here is the reg.

Brian Pfleuger · September 13, 2011, 03:03 PM

Well there you go. Slugs are specifically allowed for hogs.

natman · September 14, 2011, 07:37 AM

Shotgun Only Feral Hots: Shotguns with any size shot including buckshot or slugs are allowed.
.....
Means Restriction: Except for feral hog hunts, firearms are restricted to shotguns with non-toxic shot or no larger than #4 shot.

I figured it would become clearer once the actual regs were posted.

stegar1 · September 14, 2011, 08:09 AM

The only specific hog hunt is over today well untill Jan .after that you have to use the means that corresponds with the current hunt. It is illegal to have buck shot on you unless otherwise stated. You cant hunt birds with slugs. You can only use a bow during WTD bow season

MLeake · September 14, 2011, 08:13 AM

If there is still doubt over verbiage, it probably wouldn't hurt to just ask the local game wardens / DNR / Fish and Game / whatever term TX uses.

After all, they are the ones who will cite or arrest you in the field.

September 9, 2011, 09:36 PM	#27
Hog Buster Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2009 Location: Pointe Coupee, Louisana Posts: 772	Use bird shot for pig hunting?............. Yeah, when pigs fly.......... __________________ Those who beat their guns into plows, will plow for those who don't.-Thomas Jefferson

September 9, 2011, 09:58 PM	#28
1911rocks Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2006 Posts: 424	Hogbuster's reply That was funny I don't care who you are!!

September 10, 2011, 02:40 AM	#30
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,300	similar We have a similat situation in AL. On public lands, only the firearm legal for the specific season at hand is legal for hogs. Thus, in small game season, only a shotgun w/ bird shot ( the reg gives a specific size) or a rimfire rifle is legal a lot of the times, .......or bows.......or muzzle loaders UNDER .40 cal. Guys who want to hunt hogs on the WMA's during small game seasons are for the most part using scoped .22 mags w/ heavy bullets, some even FMJ, and aiming for the neck skull junction/base of ear. I would not intentially brace a hog at any range w/ fine shot from a shot gun, would not really trust buck past 25-30 yds from a tight choked gun, and would prefer a slug or real rifle.

September 10, 2011, 03:22 PM	#34
graysmoke Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2011 Location: Tennessee Posts: 378	I only hunt large Hog with my .357 Ruger Black Hawk handgun. Up to 20 feet - one shot in the head is just fine.....Of-course you got to be an accurate shooter. __________________ "Keep your powder dry, and eyes on the target". -R. Lee Ermey

September 14, 2011, 08:09 AM	#42
stegar1 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2010 Location: Dallas , TX Posts: 144	The only specific hog hunt is over today well untill Jan .after that you have to use the means that corresponds with the current hunt. It is illegal to have buck shot on you unless otherwise stated. You cant hunt birds with slugs. You can only use a bow during WTD bow season __________________ YAT YAS Semper Fi

September 9, 2011, 07:24 PM	#26
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	I'd MUCH sooner hunt them with a 22mag than 12ga birdshot.

September 10, 2011, 01:46 PM	#32
LSnSC Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2010 Posts: 514	Ive killed a couple of hogs while turkey hunting. They wandered into my setup and got a load of copper plated #5's between the blinkers. DRT. At short range, 20 yds or less, with a tight choke it will kill the snot out of them. Watched a friend roll two with Hevi Shot Dead Coyote loads Range was about 25 yds and shot was to head and neck. All were pigs about 50-60 lbs. Not my first choice of loads but they worked. FWIW, A shotgun with buckshot kills the crap out of them if the user is at least moderately competent. Ive killed dozens with #1 buck out of a Beretta 390.

September 10, 2011, 02:41 PM	#33
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	Depends where you are hunting, and on your luck. I've been out on days where the small hogs were 125lbs, and the big ones in the 250-300lb class. As far as whether you'd go looking for the biggest, baddest hog, wpcexpert, in a way that doesn't matter. I've known more than a couple of people who've shot one hog, only to have others come at them, instead of running away. I'd say the norm is that they'll scatter. Then again, I've had somebody else scatter a couple big ones right at me before. If you go out in hog country, no matter what you are looking for, you may just run into that big, bad hog you didn't really want. I'd rather not do that with a birdshot load.

September 11, 2011, 02:19 AM	#35
natman Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2008 Posts: 2,605	It sounds like what's going on is this - there's no season on hogs. However, there are seasonal gun and ammo restrictions for hunting other animals. In order to keep people from violating the gun and ammo restrictions by claiming "I'm hunting hogs", Fish and Game has decreed that you have to use whatever ammo is in season at the time. As far as I am concerned, that means you can't hunt hogs during birdshot season, because it's not going to be suitable for hogs at any time of the year.

September 11, 2011, 08:37 AM	#36
Grant D Senior Member Join Date: August 14, 2011 Location: Brazos County, Texas Posts: 1,038	This is from Texas Parks and Wildlife...... How do I hunt feral hogs? Although feral hogs are not classified as game animals, a hunting license is required to hunt them. Feral hogs are very intelligent and considered to be challenging quarry. Many hunters consider the long tusks and mean appearance a genuine trophy, in addition to the quality of meat. They also provide a great off-season challenge and opportunities to hone hunting skills and spend time in the field. There are many hunting techniques used, including stand hunting over a baited area, quite often incidental to white-tailed deer hunting. Stalking or still hunting over baited areas and areas indicating recent hog activity, such as wallows, are commonly used techniques. Corn or milo, often soaked in water and allowed to sour and then buried underground is good bait. Night hunting with a spotlight is often used; however, the local game warden must be notified beforehand. (There are certain laws which prohibit using artificial light where deer are known to range.) Hunting with well-trained dogs is another hunting method utilized and can be very exciting. Because the feral hog has such a tough hide the best rifle calibers to use should be a .243 or greater to prevent wounding and loss of the animal. Bowhunting, muzzleloading, and handguns are also popular among sportsmen to hunt feral hogs. I've hunted hogs in my backyard here in Texas and I've never heard of a caliber restriction on hog hunting in this state. A guy I work with uses dogs and a Bowie knife! ( I use my 30-30 )

September 11, 2011, 10:10 PM	#37
banditt007 Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2006 Posts: 694	I have your solution. STEEL slugs = non-toxic. Enjoy. http://www.ddupleks.lv/EN/articles/show/products

September 13, 2011, 10:34 AM	#38
SRH78 Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 517	I would be very suprised if you are not allowed to hunt with archery equipment, which would be your best bet.

September 13, 2011, 03:03 PM	#40
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	Well there you go. Slugs are specifically allowed for hogs.

September 14, 2011, 07:37 AM	#41
natman Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2008 Posts: 2,605	Shotgun Only Feral Hots: Shotguns with any size shot including buckshot or slugs are allowed. ..... Means Restriction: Except for feral hog hunts, firearms are restricted to shotguns with non-toxic shot or no larger than #4 shot. I figured it would become clearer once the actual regs were posted.

September 14, 2011, 08:13 AM	#43
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	If there is still doubt over verbiage, it probably wouldn't hurt to just ask the local game wardens / DNR / Fish and Game / whatever term TX uses. After all, they are the ones who will cite or arrest you in the field.

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