AOW vs SBR vs ar pistol

Polinese · August 5, 2015, 04:35 PM

Trying to see if I have this right before I go off and build the thing...

If I build an ar pistol and its OAL is 26 inches or more, I can add a veritcal foregrip, and cheek rest... and it'll just be a firearm... not an AOW, not an SBR or PISTOL and needing a stamp or being put on my pistol permit correct?

9x19 · August 5, 2015, 04:37 PM

IIRC, adding a vertical fore grip to any handgun makes it AOW.

A handgun is a handgun, regardless of barrel length or overall length.

TMD · August 5, 2015, 05:00 PM

The barrel can be 5 feet long but it's still classified as a handgun so the vertical grip is a no go.

Polinese · August 5, 2015, 07:00 PM

I'm so glad we have all these sensible laws keeping us safe

dakota.potts · August 5, 2015, 09:51 PM

Actually, I do believe a firearm not designed to be fired from the shoulder with an OAL of 26" is not a handgun. It is a firearm, which can have a vertical grip added to it.

Here's a company selling one such product http://www.franklinarmory.com/PRODUCTS_XO-26B.html

Polinese · August 5, 2015, 10:53 PM

Dakota that was my understanding, and that of my gun smith... but was trying to get clarification before we built the thing.

Theohazard · August 5, 2015, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 9x19

IIRC, adding a vertical fore grip to any handgun makes it AOW.

A handgun is a handgun, regardless of barrel length or overall length.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMO

The barrel can be 5 feet long but it's still classified as a handgun so the vertical grip is a no go.

Both of these comments are incorrect. Dakota is right, if the overall length is 26" or greater you can put a vertical foregrip on it.

dakota.potts · August 6, 2015, 08:37 AM

There are even 12 gauge smoothbore "firearms" with short barrels legally available without going through the NFA.

9x19 · August 6, 2015, 08:54 AM

Thanks for the info.

Good luck with the build, and share some pics when you're done.

Polinese · August 6, 2015, 12:55 PM

Will do. It'll be a while we gotta finish my mauser build before we get to work on this extra lower I have haha.

August 5, 2015, 04:35 PM	#1
Polinese Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2010 Posts: 946	AOW vs SBR vs ar pistol Trying to see if I have this right before I go off and build the thing... If I build an ar pistol and its OAL is 26 inches or more, I can add a veritcal foregrip, and cheek rest... and it'll just be a firearm... not an AOW, not an SBR or PISTOL and needing a stamp or being put on my pistol permit correct?

August 5, 2015, 04:37 PM	#2
9x19 Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 1998 Location: Sherman, TX USA Posts: 3,750	IIRC, adding a vertical fore grip to any handgun makes it AOW. A handgun is a handgun, regardless of barrel length or overall length. __________________ Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!

August 5, 2015, 09:51 PM	#5
dakota.potts Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2013 Location: Keystone Heights, Florida Posts: 3,084	Actually, I do believe a firearm not designed to be fired from the shoulder with an OAL of 26" is not a handgun. It is a firearm, which can have a vertical grip added to it. Here's a company selling one such product http://www.franklinarmory.com/PRODUCTS_XO-26B.html __________________ Certified Gunsmith (On Hiatus) Certified Armorer - H&K and Glock Among Others You can find my writings at my website, pottsprecision.com.

August 6, 2015, 08:37 AM	#8
dakota.potts Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2013 Location: Keystone Heights, Florida Posts: 3,084	There are even 12 gauge smoothbore "firearms" with short barrels legally available without going through the NFA. __________________ Certified Gunsmith (On Hiatus) Certified Armorer - H&K and Glock Among Others You can find my writings at my website, pottsprecision.com.

August 6, 2015, 08:54 AM	#9
9x19 Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 1998 Location: Sherman, TX USA Posts: 3,750	Thanks for the info. Good luck with the build, and share some pics when you're done. __________________ Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!

August 5, 2015, 05:00 PM	#3
TMD Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2011 Posts: 1,293	The barrel can be 5 feet long but it's still classified as a handgun so the vertical grip is a no go.

August 5, 2015, 07:00 PM	#4
Polinese Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2010 Posts: 946	I'm so glad we have all these sensible laws keeping us safe

August 5, 2015, 10:53 PM	#6
Polinese Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2010 Posts: 946	Dakota that was my understanding, and that of my gun smith... but was trying to get clarification before we built the thing.

August 6, 2015, 12:55 PM	#10
Polinese Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2010 Posts: 946	Will do. It'll be a while we gotta finish my mauser build before we get to work on this extra lower I have haha.

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