bullseye 230gr fmj 45acp???

[bigchicano]

I have read and surfed looking for the correct information and now I figured I'd ask the good people here and see what the correct answer is. The Internet has the load being 4.5-5.0 but my Speer book has it at 5.2-5.7. Knowing that if it's on the net it must be true, I went with my manuel and loaded 100 rounds at 5.4. Anyone have different numbers? I'm also trying to find a load for green dot. Thanks for the help

[RickB]

When I asked Manuel, he said that 5.4 was OK.
I tend to go with current data from the powder maker, given my druthers. You will see changes in data over time, sometimes because a powder is reformulated, and sometimes, I think, because there's a fear that a really old gun might not live through what were hot loads.
I have an old back issue of Guns & Ammo magazine from the '70s, and included in the some load data is a particular load described as "warm", that today would be considered way over max.

[polyphemus]

Just ask Manuel,he knows everything.
5.0-5.7

[jersurf101]

4.5 gr Bullseye is a nice target load in my guns. It runs the action just fine

[Nick_C_S]

Double-checked: Manuel approves of your 5.4g's of Bullseye.

[Slamfire]

I want my 230 FMJ's to be just at 800 fps as that is the original velocity spec for the 1910 cartridges. The powder charge then was 5.0 grains Bullseye. Five grains of modern Bullseye gave me the velocity I wanted.

Commercial ammo is hotter, either 850 fps to above 900 fps. But, I consider, and a number of Bullseye Competition shooters consider, a 230 FMJ with 5.0 grs Bullseye a ball equivalent.


230 gr FMJ (R-P) 5.0 grs Bullseye 99' & 2005 mixed lot Mixed Brass WLP (brass) OAL 1.265" taper crimp .469"

12-Dec-11 T= 53 °F

Ave Vel = 793.5
Std Dev = 18.92
ES = 61.99
High = 817.4
Low = 755.4
N = 16

[Marco Califo]

Just in case Manuel is hanging out behind the barrio 7-11 drinking Tecates with el Jefe, you CAN look at the Alliant online data:
http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloade...id=65&bdid=194
It appears that mi amigo Manuel can read Inglis bueno.

[57K]

Whoooos bullet ar ju using, Jefe? Lyman Manuel says 5.3 grs. is Max. for 878 FPS at 17,100 CUP with the SPEER TMJ. SIERRA says 5.2 is Max. and rates it 900 FPS with their 230. The bullets are constructed slightly differently. While SPEER calls their's a TMJ, it's actually plated thick. The SIERRA 230 is an actual Copper Jacketed FMJ.

[JustSomeGuy]

Still... 5gnrs of Bullseye is a classic recipe for an 230grn FMJ. It depends on what you are trying to do. If it's just a good all around load meant mainly for target and range work, and it runs your gun and is accurate, then I see no reason to change it. That's why we reload... to fill a need. What's yours?

[mumbo719]

5.0gr BE under a 230gr plated or FMJ is my pet load.

If I could only find more Bullseye

[kerreckt]

If this hasn't already been put out there. This is a classic tried and true recipe.
5.0gr.BE with 230gr FMJ. Good all around load. Shoots well in all 5 of my .45acp pistols.

[medic15al]

5.4 Bullseye under a 230 FMJ-FP by Hornady chrono's ave of 850-860 FPS in my Colt LW Government 5 in.

[Real Gun]

I use 5.2g for 230g FMJ and 4.6g for 200g LSWC. Designed to be optimal in a 5" 1911 Springfield. I like the feel of that load better than 5.0, but either works well. I am not equipped to measure accuracy or velocity. I own a chrono but have nowhere to use it. I'll have to work on that.

[SVTCobra306]

My question is why load a hundred rounds if you aren't sure? When I do a load workup I usually load the ladder min to max, or what I think will be a max load if it's a plated bullet, even if I won't "go into production" with the max load. That way I at least know what point I start to see pressure signs, and if I ever see some need to load a hotter round I don't have to redo the workup.

I never load more than 10 rounds of anything until I've worked the ladder, I typically shoot the whole ladder first, then decide on my intended production load, then load up 50 rounds and go shoot them all in one session to test function.. this has saved my butt recently as I found out that 6.2 grains of HS-6 under a 115 gr FMJ 9mm load would cycle my ported XD9 just fine for the ten test rounds, but didn't make it through 50 without a couple of stovepipes.. loaded 50 more at 6.4, which I had already worked in the ladder and knew was safe, and it cycled the pistol perfectly so I adjusted my production load to 6.4 gr instead of 6.2, and now I do 100 rd runs of it without fear that I'm going to have to pull them all down.

[Nevmavrick]

Most of my shooting is across the chronograph, and ALL my .45 ACP is with lead. The main difference with the .45 is test with different sizes, and alloys, and lubes.
I, as so many others, have had very good luck with 5.0gr Bullseye, and have tried lots of tests with 4.5-4.9gr Green Dot with good results. Another powder that works well, and you may have around if you reload shotshell too, is Red Dot. 4.3-4.7gr works well, for velocities around factory.
I shoot a full-frame M1911, and use it for Steel Challenge, though, of late I've gone to a .40 S&W full frame, for larger magazine capacity.
At the pressures of the .45ACP, you won't see "pressure signs" so there is no reason to keep loading hotter. With a handgun, you'll want to pretty much duplicate factory ballistics, and do it less expensively.
Have fun,
Gene

[darkgael]

Supposedly 5.0 grains of Bullseye and a 230 gr. FMJ duplicates military ball ammo. Or so I was told years ago.

[Real Gun]

ALL my .45 ACP is with lead

I, as so many others, have had very good luck with 5.0gr Bullseye

I thought the 5.0g Bullseye standard was for FMJ. I think this load probably does actually work well with lead, but I never tried a 230g LRN, only 200g LSWC at 4.6g.