help in identifying this rifle

earlc · January 11, 2013, 09:09 PM

I bought this rifle about 15 years ago from a guy that needed money and since I have quite a few rifles to hunt with and shoot on the range, I basically just put this rifle away thinking that it was a British Enfield 303 cal. like I had when I was a young boy about 50 years ago. Recently with all of the renewed controversy about firearms I decided to purchase a better supply of ammo for all of my weapons including this rifle, after purchsing 303 ammo and comparing it with the couple of rounds that came with the rifle there is a considerable difference. The rifle has no caliber markings whatsoever and the cartridge that came with it only has "17" stamped on it. I have included a picture of the rifle and the cartridges if anyone can help I would appreciate it very much. thanks in advance, Earl

5.56RifleGuy · January 11, 2013, 09:21 PM

That rifle is a m44 mosin Nagant. It takes 7.62x54R ammo.

Walter · January 11, 2013, 09:34 PM

It appears to be some variant of Mosin Nagant, although I have no idea which one, or what caliber.

Check out this link, see if anything there resembles what you have.
http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/vie...f=182&t=105242

Walter

earlc · January 11, 2013, 09:46 PM

Thanks so much for the help, so much for my knowlege about the British Enfield, of course 50 years was a long time ago.

5.56RifleGuy · January 11, 2013, 09:50 PM

Your welcome. If you want to shoot it ammo is cheap and plentiful. You can by crates of it online for around $200 or less shipped. The ammo is corrosive, so you want to make sure you clean well after firing it.

rickyrick · January 11, 2013, 10:06 PM

Mosin nagant,

It's the mini14 of bolt action milsurps

jimbob86 · January 11, 2013, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Mosin nagant,

It's the mini14 of bolt action milsurps

I'm trying to suss out the similarities between the two ..... not seeing it.

DnPRK · January 11, 2013, 10:16 PM

The ammo does not appear to be 7.62x54R for the M44 Mosin Nagant.

The cartridge with the shiny case appears to be .303 British.
The cartridge with the tarnished case might be a 30-40 Krag.

rickyrick · January 11, 2013, 10:20 PM

Your right that's not a 54r cartridge but the rifle is definitely a mosin nagant better have it checked

rickyrick · January 11, 2013, 10:21 PM

Oh the mini14 is loved by its owners but hated by the rest. Same for the mosin nagant.

jimbob86 · January 11, 2013, 11:04 PM

I can't say I love my mosin .... it's a very sturdy .... well, very Russian gun.

coachteet · January 12, 2013, 01:34 AM

Yeah, that ammo isn't 7.62x54R. Are there any maker's marks on the rifle? Can you post additional pics?

January 11, 2013, 10:06 PM	#6
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	Mosin nagant, It's the mini14 of bolt action milsurps __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

January 11, 2013, 10:20 PM	#9
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	Your right that's not a 54r cartridge but the rifle is definitely a mosin nagant better have it checked __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

January 11, 2013, 10:21 PM	#10
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	Oh the mini14 is loved by its owners but hated by the rest. Same for the mosin nagant. __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

January 11, 2013, 09:21 PM	#2
5.56RifleGuy Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,212	That rifle is a m44 mosin Nagant. It takes 7.62x54R ammo.

January 11, 2013, 09:34 PM	#3
Walter Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2004 Location: North Texas Posts: 641	It appears to be some variant of Mosin Nagant, although I have no idea which one, or what caliber. Check out this link, see if anything there resembles what you have. http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/vie...f=182&t=105242 Walter

January 11, 2013, 09:46 PM	#4
earlc Junior Member Join Date: January 11, 2013 Location: Millsboro, Delaware Posts: 4	Thanks so much for the help, so much for my knowlege about the British Enfield, of course 50 years was a long time ago.

January 11, 2013, 09:50 PM	#5
5.56RifleGuy Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,212	Your welcome. If you want to shoot it ammo is cheap and plentiful. You can by crates of it online for around $200 or less shipped. The ammo is corrosive, so you want to make sure you clean well after firing it.

January 11, 2013, 10:16 PM	#8
DnPRK Senior Member Join Date: August 24, 2001 Location: LC, Ca Posts: 1,917	The ammo does not appear to be 7.62x54R for the M44 Mosin Nagant. The cartridge with the shiny case appears to be .303 British. The cartridge with the tarnished case might be a 30-40 Krag.

January 11, 2013, 11:04 PM	#11
jimbob86 Junior member Join Date: October 4, 2007 Location: All the way to NEBRASKA Posts: 8,722	I can't say I love my mosin .... it's a very sturdy .... well, very Russian gun.

January 12, 2013, 01:34 AM	#12
coachteet Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2008 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 122	Yeah, that ammo isn't 7.62x54R. Are there any maker's marks on the rifle? Can you post additional pics?