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January 6, 2013, 10:02 PM | #26 |
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A heavy jacketed hollow point, say 240 gr. in .44 caliber offers the advantage of expansion (for a good wound channel) while retaining its mass at the base for deep penetration.
Light bullets often expand too much, offering too much frontal area and limiting penetration. The light bullets work well on groundhog, coyote and similar critters, while the heavier bullets work better on heavier, and edible, game. As far as cast bullets, the more lead, the better. Bob Wright |
January 6, 2013, 10:46 PM | #27 | |
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I've found that LSWC bullets perform better on deer than heavy JHP. I believe it boils down to the bullet companies make a lot of money on JHP through marketing. Seen 'em fail too often in the real world.
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January 7, 2013, 10:43 PM | #28 |
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The older solid hardcast bullets work, as do many of the lswc designs. If idea of these bullets being that they make a good sized hole through and through, have enough weight to break bone and leave a good blood trail if necessary. The idea is over 200 years old and they do work.
Now modern bullets like the Barnes and the DPX have the weight needed and the penetration and they tend to expand. If for some reason they do not expand they act as a lswchp and plow through to the other side the same as the above. 30 years ago the jhp hunting rounds may not have penetrated deeply enough, or they may have broken up before penetrating deep enough, but those days are no longer. The answer to the worrying is that a good expanding bullet of modern design will do all the older hardcasts did plus expand. What's not to like? tipoc |
January 8, 2013, 10:29 PM | #29 |
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For years in the military all I was allowed to carry were FMJ's. I now tend to carry the heaviest hps i can with back up mags loaded with fmj. I don't worry about over penetration in the least in 45acp. In 44 I like 240 jsp with speed-loaders in hard cast. If I need a reload I'm guessing I will need penetration through some kind of concealment.
Penetration is the most important factor to me in selecting a defensive caliber. People in general have a poor understanding of physics and ballistics and have wildly unrealistic ideas of what a particular round is going to do. |
January 10, 2013, 05:46 PM | #30 | |
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OP, someone either spouted a general rule as gospel or you took it as gospel. Either way what you understand is nothing more than that, a general rule. Not all cast are created equal and not all HP's are created equal. Take a good HP like Hornady's .357 180gr XTP; while it may not penetrate as far as a hardcast bullet of quality design and construction it will have zero issues going thru deer or other BG and offers a greatly expanded wound channel compared to hardcast bullets. Heavy for caliber HP's of good construction definitely have a place in the hunting world. Last edited by L_Killkenny; January 10, 2013 at 05:56 PM. |
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January 10, 2013, 06:42 PM | #31 | |
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