8mm surplus ammo help - Page 2

adrians · July 26, 2011, 08:16 PM

the "s' simply stands for spitzer , the bullet dia would be circa .322---.323..
the reason i say i don't shoot 8js ammo in my gews is 98's have a third locking lug on the bolt the gew88 doesn't and the 98's also have venting holes in the bolt to ensure the shooter isn't hurt from gases from a case rupture,the 88 bolts are not as sophisticated, there is also the split bridge affair on the gew .
when it all boils down to it in theory you can shoot .323 in your 88 ,how does that saying go?,,,,, "if it chambers easilly enough it's good to go" or something like that ,anyway i choose not to.
if you pull a bullet from a commercial say win / rem 8mm and mic it you will find it measures closer to .321, for fear by makers of people shooting their ammo in the 88's (it's a lawer thing!).
all my 88 have no "s" on the reciever so they are not reamed to accept the .323( although they probably will ).
the circle z was a czech stamp and most of the rifles with this stamp were sent to south america, and the bore dia on these rifles can run as tight as .316.
when the turks got hold of your 88 they re-chambered it for the spitzer and it probably shot .323 all it.s service life.
me i'm a wuss so i cast up to a .321 bullet and load light at around 1200-1400 fps ( no need for a g/c at these vel either).
sorry for wandering a bit but i tend to do that alot.

8mm · July 26, 2011, 08:37 PM

i got some romanian rounds from 55 i was told i could shot them because they are not hot loads. so i could shot us commercial throught it if i have to.

adrians · July 27, 2011, 06:02 AM

romanian ammo (i also have some of that ) is not as hot as the turk fodder you should be o.k with that ,but remember to clean real good when done cos the mil-surp ammo more often than not uses berdan primers which are corrosive so a good clean with water to nuetralize the residue is in order,.
yes, commercial ammo is purposely downloaded for just this kind of situation it will be o.k to shoot in your gew88 (lower pressure than european ammo and the use of a .321 dia pill),
like i mentioned it;s a lawyer thing.
have a great day and shoot forward

F. Guffey · July 27, 2011, 10:01 AM

You have a rifle that is 130 years old, your rifle could be a cobbled together rifle that was updated for use with the local guard 105 years ago, you are contemplating shooting ammo that is hot for a rifle in good shape by today's standard???? Me? I would not shoot that rifle if it was the only rifle I had.

Because a collector/shooter/reloader was told by forms and his smith a .318 Mauser head space gage was not available, I made a set for him, the gages went from .000 to + .024 over a full length/minimum length sized case, he had two 88s, one with .024 thousands head space and another at .018 head space, the .024 he hung on the wall and then wanted to know how to load for the .018, after checking all of his Mausers for head space, he was surprised that so many were .008 or less, one gage fit both chambers.

F. Guffey

8mm · July 27, 2011, 11:05 AM

where do you get the head space guage everything on it is tight nothing is worn or loose. how hurt do you get if you blow a case. what is the point of the cleaning rod and the rifle i got has regular bluing and redish bluing why is this.

8mm · July 27, 2011, 01:39 PM

what does the letter (i) mean under the serial number.

rdf.hack · July 31, 2011, 09:42 PM

I got myself 140 rounds of '43 Turkish 8MM on strippers in ammo packs. Very clean looking ammo, can't wait to shoot it. Comparing the head stamps between it and yours, you definitely have Turkish 8MM.

8mm,

You should get a VZ-24 or Yugo Mauser from JG Sales, they're beater rifles but will be a more pleasant shooter, and can shoot all matter of ammo, the 88 commission is a wall hanger. Those VZs and Yugos are so common that you can customize it into a very nice shooter, for a cheap price.

Also, I implore you to use capitalization and grammar, sometimes I can't even understand you.

8mm · August 3, 2011, 01:39 AM

imv beenlooking at them vz 24's ill chech it out. i shot the gewehr 1888 over the weekend love it.

July 27, 2011, 11:05 AM	#30
8mm Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2011 Location: east coast Posts: 105	where do you get the head space guage everything on it is tight nothing is worn or loose. how hurt do you get if you blow a case. what is the point of the cleaning rod and the rifle i got has regular bluing and redish bluing why is this. Last edited by 8mm; July 27, 2011 at 11:21 AM.

July 27, 2011, 01:39 PM	#31
8mm Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2011 Location: east coast Posts: 105	what does the letter (i) mean under the serial number. Last edited by 8mm; July 27, 2011 at 03:56 PM.

July 26, 2011, 08:16 PM	#26
adrians Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2010 Location: mountain view ,ar. Posts: 184	the "s' simply stands for spitzer , the bullet dia would be circa .322---.323.. the reason i say i don't shoot 8js ammo in my gews is 98's have a third locking lug on the bolt the gew88 doesn't and the 98's also have venting holes in the bolt to ensure the shooter isn't hurt from gases from a case rupture,the 88 bolts are not as sophisticated, there is also the split bridge affair on the gew . when it all boils down to it in theory you can shoot .323 in your 88 ,how does that saying go?,,,,, "if it chambers easilly enough it's good to go" or something like that ,anyway i choose not to. if you pull a bullet from a commercial say win / rem 8mm and mic it you will find it measures closer to .321, for fear by makers of people shooting their ammo in the 88's (it's a lawer thing!). all my 88 have no "s" on the reciever so they are not reamed to accept the .323( although they probably will ). the circle z was a czech stamp and most of the rifles with this stamp were sent to south america, and the bore dia on these rifles can run as tight as .316. when the turks got hold of your 88 they re-chambered it for the spitzer and it probably shot .323 all it.s service life. me i'm a wuss so i cast up to a .321 bullet and load light at around 1200-1400 fps ( no need for a g/c at these vel either). sorry for wandering a bit but i tend to do that alot.

July 26, 2011, 08:37 PM	#27
8mm Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2011 Location: east coast Posts: 105	i got some romanian rounds from 55 i was told i could shot them because they are not hot loads. so i could shot us commercial throught it if i have to.

July 27, 2011, 06:02 AM	#28
adrians Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2010 Location: mountain view ,ar. Posts: 184	romanian ammo (i also have some of that ) is not as hot as the turk fodder you should be o.k with that ,but remember to clean real good when done cos the mil-surp ammo more often than not uses berdan primers which are corrosive so a good clean with water to nuetralize the residue is in order,. yes, commercial ammo is purposely downloaded for just this kind of situation it will be o.k to shoot in your gew88 (lower pressure than european ammo and the use of a .321 dia pill), like i mentioned it;s a lawyer thing. have a great day and shoot forward

July 27, 2011, 10:01 AM	#29
F. Guffey Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2008 Posts: 7,249	You have a rifle that is 130 years old, your rifle could be a cobbled together rifle that was updated for use with the local guard 105 years ago, you are contemplating shooting ammo that is hot for a rifle in good shape by today's standard???? Me? I would not shoot that rifle if it was the only rifle I had. Because a collector/shooter/reloader was told by forms and his smith a .318 Mauser head space gage was not available, I made a set for him, the gages went from .000 to + .024 over a full length/minimum length sized case, he had two 88s, one with .024 thousands head space and another at .018 head space, the .024 he hung on the wall and then wanted to know how to load for the .018, after checking all of his Mausers for head space, he was surprised that so many were .008 or less, one gage fit both chambers. F. Guffey

July 31, 2011, 09:42 PM	#32
rdf.hack Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 2011 Posts: 173	I got myself 140 rounds of '43 Turkish 8MM on strippers in ammo packs. Very clean looking ammo, can't wait to shoot it. Comparing the head stamps between it and yours, you definitely have Turkish 8MM. 8mm, You should get a VZ-24 or Yugo Mauser from JG Sales, they're beater rifles but will be a more pleasant shooter, and can shoot all matter of ammo, the 88 commission is a wall hanger. Those VZs and Yugos are so common that you can customize it into a very nice shooter, for a cheap price. Also, I implore you to use capitalization and grammar, sometimes I can't even understand you.

August 3, 2011, 01:39 AM	#33
8mm Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2011 Location: east coast Posts: 105	imv beenlooking at them vz 24's ill chech it out. i shot the gewehr 1888 over the weekend love it.