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January 31, 2010, 09:31 AM | #1 |
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Help ID this little guy
Here are some pics I took of an old single shot cartridge loader that belongs to an acquaintance of mine. I haven't a clue what it is, but I can just imagine it stuck in a Mississippi Gambler's vest pocket.
Any one know what this is? |
January 31, 2010, 09:37 AM | #2 |
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More pics ...
This next one is disappointing because it shows some important detail and I must have jumped a half inch when the shot came. If it will help ID the piece I can reshoot it. It occurs to me that I did not look at the breechface to see if it was a centerfire or rimfire. Nor did I make any attempt to estimate the muzzle diameter. I will check those details unless someone is positive of an ID. I may try a pic of the breechface and reshoot the fuzzy one above while I'm at it. |
January 31, 2010, 09:46 AM | #3 |
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I THINK it's a National Arms No. 1 or No. 2 derringer.
They generally are worth a pretty penny. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DN%26um%3D1
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January 31, 2010, 09:52 AM | #4 |
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That looks like it, Mike.
Man, that was quick! |
January 31, 2010, 01:57 PM | #5 |
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And as a matter of trivia, Colt purchased National and the little derringer became Colts " Third Model Derringer ".
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January 31, 2010, 05:39 PM | #6 |
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I dunno, Mike. Nine minutes for the answer. I think you're slipping.
Can you get another pick with the action open? Looks pretty cool! |
January 31, 2010, 05:48 PM | #7 |
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National Arms Co. Brooklyn New York 1865 1870
Former Moores Patent Firearms Co. .41 r.f. caliber, single shot deringer Mike Ewrin is correct |
January 31, 2010, 06:25 PM | #8 |
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Who's Mike Ewrin?
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January 31, 2010, 06:45 PM | #9 |
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ooooooooooooopps!
Hit the wrong key. My apology Mike Irwin Hr Harley |
February 1, 2010, 05:17 AM | #10 | |
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February 1, 2010, 02:33 PM | #11 |
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Actually, the National (Moore) Second Model derringer became the Colt Second Model; the Colt Third Model (Thuer) is a side turn type. That is a National, as the Colt frame was a little different as were the grips. The caliber is .41 Short rimfire.
I make a value WAG at around $1000 in that condition. Colts, needless to say, go for more. Jim Last edited by James K; February 1, 2010 at 02:42 PM. |
February 8, 2010, 03:19 AM | #12 |
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FWIW, here's it's cousin, an All Metal No. 1 or First Model Deringer:
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=379182
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