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October 13, 2012, 05:58 PM
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I want to start reloading .223/5.56 Need your opinon.
I am becoming more and more interested in guns and such. I have about 3,000 rounds for my AR and I would like to start reloading. I am going to read the ABC's of reloading, but I want you to go over everything I need. here is what i have put together. Please give advice where you wish. Thanks!
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/423...nniversary-kit http://www.midwayusa.com/product/165...-bulk-packaged http://www.midwayusa.com/product/456...-223-remington The primers and powder I would purchase at a local gun store to avoid the hazmat fees. Please let me know what else I need to purchase other than a manual. Do you need to lube .223 cases? Do you need to trim the cases? Please advise as I would like to put an order in for all of the stuff I need by the end of the month. Thanks 
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October 13, 2012, 06:05 PM
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I forgot to add that I would want to reload 9mm for cost sakes, if It can be done cheaper than 20 cents a round.
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October 13, 2012, 06:27 PM
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That's the wrong die. You need a sizing die and a bullet-seating die (they're sold as a set), you don't really need a crimp die.
Yes you need to lube the cases, and you need to trim them after you size them. Dillon spray lube works good, so does applying Kiwi Mink Oil (shoe dressing) lightly with your fingers.
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October 13, 2012, 06:29 PM
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Thank you. Like these http://www.midwayusa.com/product/554...-223-remington
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October 13, 2012, 06:32 PM
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Lots of us who just started reloading 223 here on the forum, our threads should be on the 1st or 2nd page. I'm using the Lee Classic Turret press kit. Main thing is take your time, do tons of research....and buy Lyman #49
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October 13, 2012, 07:45 PM
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The Lee "RGB" die set is the one I use. You'll also need a shellholder because that set doesn't come with one.
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October 13, 2012, 08:14 PM
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Thanks guys keep em coming
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October 13, 2012, 08:52 PM
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Siska- Is that what a tumbler would be used for? Im putting together an order at midway. This is what I have so far. Please let me know what else I need.
Lee Case Length Gage and Shellholder 223 Remington Product #: 107333 Move Available $4.99 Update Remove $4.99 MTM Flip-Top Ammo Box 17 Remington, 204 Ruger, 223 Remington 100-Round Plastic Clear-Blue Product #: 120930 Move Available $5.99 Update Remove $5.99 Lyman "Reloading Handbook: 49th Edition" Reloading Manual Softcover Product #: 217655 Move Available $19.99 Update Remove $19.99 Hornady One Shot Case Lube 16 oz Liquid Product #: 269233 Move Available $22.99 Update Remove $22.99 Lee RGB 2-Die Set 223 Remington Product #: 554943 Move Available $18.49 Update Remove $18.49 Hornady Bullets 22 Caliber (224 Diameter) 55 Grain Full Metal Jacket Boat Tail Box of 1000 (Bulk Packaged) Product #: 165907 Move Available $89.99 Update Remove $89.99 Sale Lee Challenger Breech Lock Single Stage Press Anniversary Kit Product #: 423081 Move Available $99.99 Update Remove $99.99 Remove All In Stock Summary Promotion Code Enter Promo Code Apply Shipping Estimator Enter Zip Code Get Estimate In Stock Item Subtotal: $262.43 TOTAL: $262.43Checkout Now |
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October 13, 2012, 09:30 PM
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I highly recommend Dillon spray lube instead of Hornady One-Shot. I've heard too many horror stories of stuck cases (never actually tried it myself.) The Dillon lube is cheaper to use too.
You also only have half a trimmer, and no shellholder yet.
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October 13, 2012, 09:30 PM
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Thank you. I will make that change
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October 13, 2012, 09:37 PM
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Are the cases trimmed by the press or by hand?
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October 13, 2012, 09:47 PM
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If you want the Lee dies, get the three die set that comes with the Lee Factory Crimp die. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/434...-223-remington It is a great crimp die if you ever want to crimp for your AR. I personally crimp all my semi-auto ammo with the Lee Factory crimp die. |
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October 13, 2012, 09:51 PM
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Okay thanks. Should I get something to remove crimps as well?
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October 13, 2012, 09:59 PM
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October 13, 2012, 10:04 PM
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Okay great. So you don't have to remove the crimp where the bullet is? But the crimp where the primer is needs to be removed. What is your opinion on tumblers for removing lube?
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October 13, 2012, 10:08 PM
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The chamfer tool will remove crimps? The one that comes with the kit? Thanks again
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October 13, 2012, 10:11 PM
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Before you buy anything, goto the public library and see if they have a copy of Lyman's 48th Reloading Guide (or 49th) Read it through and it will answer a *lot* of your questions.
That 3 die set looks like a good deal. You might never use the crimp die, but if you want to try it you'll have it. And it has a shellholder.
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October 14, 2012, 12:11 AM
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Ill stop by tomorrow if they are open. thanks
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October 14, 2012, 12:23 AM
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Don't get too ahead of yourself. The Lee presses are excellent choices for beginner. Highly recommend you look into the classic turret press.
Befor you google that buy yourself a manual. Lyman 49th in my opinion is better for load data than step by step instructions. For you, since your considering Lee gear get Modern Reloading 2nd edition by Richard Lee. It is very in depth in the step by step process and what each variable in the process means to the finished round. Lee toots his own horn a bit too much through out the book in my opinion (it is his book after all) but if you get past that he has got valuable information on the ins and outs of reloading. Before you buy anything now, buy a (both if u can) manual, read up and then get ready to burn a hole in your credit card |
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October 14, 2012, 12:29 AM
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Haha alrighty I will get myself some manuals. I appreciate all of the help guys
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October 14, 2012, 12:30 AM
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I just noticed that the "Anniversary Kit" has the cutter and lock stud parts of the the case trimmer. Disregard what I said about only having half a trimmer.
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October 30, 2012, 03:19 PM
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Just my experience. I had jamming problems with my AR at first. It was a case sizing issue. i was using the Lee dies for sizing. They would cycle fine but if I had to manually eject a round I had to really get rough on the charging handle to get it out.
Turns out that no matter how i adjusted the die it would size the cases properly. Ended up getting a redding die and everything is gravy now. Everything else stayed Lee. Your biggest problem will likely be sizing when it comes to the AR. It can be a bear. Especially if you have a rifel made by a high quality manufacture like Colt or Daniel Defense where the chambers tend to be a little tighter on the specs. I use the Lee turret press as well. I range from .284" -.52" groups with the 77SMK out of my pencil chrome lined 16" barrel Colt 6520. A press is a press in by book. The process is more important The Lyman is a great manual. The only one I use. Great illustration of case dimension specs |
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October 31, 2012, 12:27 AM
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Lube them well!!!
The big lesson I learned when I started reloading 223 was to LUBE THE CASES!
Up to that point I'd only done straight handgun rounds with no shoulders to the case. They did fine with no case lube. Within the first ten 223 cases I had one so stuck in the sizing die that . . . . well let's just say it was a royal pain to get out. Live well, be safe . . . lube the cases. Prof Young |
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October 31, 2012, 01:03 PM
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At some point you might want to look into using Hodgon's CFE 223 powder-- one of the new miracle powders that actually works as advertised--and in some cases better than advertised.
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October 31, 2012, 01:27 PM
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https://www.montanagoldbullet.com/pricelist.html using range pickup brass, primers in bulk, and powder in kegs, you can reload 9mm 115gr FMJ for 12-13 cents a round. |
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