20 gauge Stevens shotgun model mystery

Bucksnort1 · September 17, 2023, 09:32 PM

I was given a Stevens, 20 gauge single barrel break open shotgun. I cannot find a model number.

Suggestions?

darkgael · September 18, 2023, 07:57 AM

A single shot Stevens....model 301. At least, that is for current manufacture.
Is there nothing on the water table?

Bucksnort1 · September 18, 2023, 09:30 PM

Don't know what you mean by water table.

The only markings on the gun, other than a lot of surface rust, is the gauge, proof tested and a serial number.

FrankenMauser · September 18, 2023, 09:50 PM

Can you post a photo?
Action type?
Wood stocks? Or whatever their brown bakelite alternative was?

Hawg · September 19, 2023, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkgael

Is there nothing on the water table?

A Stevens single barrel is a box lock. They don't have a water table.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankenMauser

Can you post a photo?
Action type?
Wood stocks? Or whatever their brown bakelite alternative was?

He said single barrel break open. Those plastic stocks were tenite.

FrankenMauser · September 19, 2023, 10:12 AM

I hate to break this to you, buddy, but there are more than one type of single-barrel, break-action shotgun action.
And, this might blow your mind, Stevens made more than one type.

Hawg · September 19, 2023, 10:21 AM

They made different release mechanisms but none have a water table buddy.

FrankenMauser · September 19, 2023, 08:36 PM

You're conflating replies.
You should probably go re-read the thread, while we wait on a photo or more information.

Bucksnort1 · September 19, 2023, 09:30 PM

Tomorrow, I will post photos.

FITASC · September 19, 2023, 10:10 PM

Quote:

A Stevens single barrel is a box lock. They don't have a water table.

????? All of my box lock shotguns have a water table - it is the area of the action that the barrel rests on when closed

Bucksnort1 · September 21, 2023, 01:15 PM

Here is the Stevens 20 gauge. It is in rough condition and needs a new firing pin. I have found the pin on line.

Bucksnort1 · September 21, 2023, 01:16 PM

Sorry, here is photo.

Hawg · September 21, 2023, 05:26 PM

Model 94 Stevens stopped using the Springfield name on shotguns in 1948 so it was made before that. IIRC they started using it in 1938.

Bucksnort1 · September 21, 2023, 09:36 PM

Now that I've found out everything I didn't want to know about this shotgun, what's the bottom line? Is it a model 94?

Hawg · September 22, 2023, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucksnort1

Now that I've found out everything I didn't want to know about this shotgun, what's the bottom line? Is it a model 94?

I don't like your attitude. Figure it out for yourself.

Bucksnort1 · September 22, 2023, 02:54 PM

hawg,

Thanks for the advice.

Remington74 · September 22, 2023, 03:38 PM

I have a Stevens 107B that looks just like the one you posted. Look up the 107B and I think you will get your answer.

Bucksnort1 · September 22, 2023, 09:03 PM

Remington,

Thanks, that's all I wanted, an answer to a simple question. I will check.

stuckinthe60s · September 23, 2023, 02:22 AM

sometimes the model is determined by the barrel length. how long is the barrel?

Bucksnort1 · September 24, 2023, 11:16 AM

stuckinthe60s,

Barrel is 26".

I am replacing a broken firing pin and want to be sure I buy the right one. This is the reason I need the model. I'm guessing many of these single barrel guns by Stevens have same firing pin.

stuckinthe60s · September 24, 2023, 03:31 PM

I know a lot of smiths that will take one close, and file it in. I will look around for you on that model number.
back in the day when customers could go into numeric arms and lay a part down on the counter, and the clerk would come out with a box full of them to match I could have helped you.
but now.....maybe you can send a pic of the guts opened up to them and they can do it via techno thingys. sometimes you can ask them to send 3 or 4 close matches. and send the rest back.
worth a try.
some of the early stevens 20ga's were known as the model 1913.
others you might try would be the
94c
940b
107b
good luck!

Bucksnort1 · September 24, 2023, 09:22 PM

60s,

Great information. I'm wondering if I can attach a piece of round hard steel to the remaining portion of the firing pin by way of a JB Weld product. A good friend has a metal fabricating business. I'm sure the JB Weld won't work but it just might. I did a quick look on line for pins and found some that look like the piece I have.

Thanks again.

darkgael · September 25, 2023, 08:26 AM

A suggestion: I have not seen a picture of what you have. I did tour through what Numrich Arms as for the model94 and a number of others.
it would not be difficult to make a copy of the firing pin with a couple of files and a piece of drill rod.

Bill DeShivs · September 25, 2023, 01:48 PM

Forget the JB Weld.
Firing pin tips made of drill rod can sometimes be hard-soldered (silver brazed) into a hole on the original pin. The tip has to be fitted to the frame, and dry firing is strongly discouraged.

Bucksnort1 · September 25, 2023, 09:55 PM

Bill DeShivs,

Your comment is interesting. Thank you for the information.

My friend, the one who does metal fabrication, will make a new firing pin tip to attach to the pin base. He asked me to measure the diameter of the remaining tip, which is 0.1195" (that's the best I can do with my dial caliper) then he asked me to measure the I.D. of the opening where the pin is inserted in the receiver to be sure the hardened high speed M2 tool steel rod he has will fit the opening with room to move. The diameter of the M2 is 0.116". I don't recall the I.D. of the opening.

This man does wonderful work. I've seen some of the beautiful gates, pergolas and ramadas he has designed and built.

September 17, 2023, 09:32 PM	#1
Bucksnort1 Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2013 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 1,121	20 gauge Stevens shotgun model mystery I was given a Stevens, 20 gauge single barrel break open shotgun. I cannot find a model number. Suggestions?

September 18, 2023, 07:57 AM	#2
darkgael Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2006 Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania. Posts: 5,473	A single shot Stevens....model 301. At least, that is for current manufacture. Is there nothing on the water table? __________________ “Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” Ernest Hemingway ... NRA Life Member

September 18, 2023, 09:50 PM	#4
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,427	Can you post a photo? Action type? Wood stocks? Or whatever their brown bakelite alternative was? __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

September 19, 2023, 10:12 AM	#6
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,427	I hate to break this to you, buddy, but there are more than one type of single-barrel, break-action shotgun action. And, this might blow your mind, Stevens made more than one type. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

September 19, 2023, 08:36 PM	#8
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,427	You're conflating replies. You should probably go re-read the thread, while we wait on a photo or more information. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

September 18, 2023, 09:30 PM	#3
Bucksnort1 Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2013 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 1,121	Don't know what you mean by water table. The only markings on the gun, other than a lot of surface rust, is the gauge, proof tested and a serial number.

September 19, 2023, 10:21 AM	#7
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,190	They made different release mechanisms but none have a water table buddy.

September 19, 2023, 09:30 PM	#9
Bucksnort1 Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2013 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 1,121	Stevens 20 ga Tomorrow, I will post photos.

September 21, 2023, 01:15 PM	#11
Bucksnort1 Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2013 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 1,121	Stevens 20 ga Here is the Stevens 20 gauge. It is in rough condition and needs a new firing pin. I have found the pin on line.

September 21, 2023, 05:26 PM	#13
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,190	Model 94 Stevens stopped using the Springfield name on shotguns in 1948 so it was made before that. IIRC they started using it in 1938.

September 21, 2023, 09:36 PM	#14
Bucksnort1 Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2013 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 1,121	Now that I've found out everything I didn't want to know about this shotgun, what's the bottom line? Is it a model 94?

September 22, 2023, 02:54 PM	#16
Bucksnort1 Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2013 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 1,121	hawg, Thanks for the advice.

September 22, 2023, 03:38 PM	#17
Remington74 Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2012 Location: Carthage, NY Posts: 231	I have a Stevens 107B that looks just like the one you posted. Look up the 107B and I think you will get your answer.

September 22, 2023, 09:03 PM	#18
Bucksnort1 Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2013 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 1,121	Remington, Thanks, that's all I wanted, an answer to a simple question. I will check.

September 23, 2023, 02:22 AM	#19
stuckinthe60s Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2017 Location: Va., Ct., Mo.. Posts: 878	sometimes the model is determined by the barrel length. how long is the barrel? __________________ Retired Military Aviation Former Member Navy Shooting Team Distinguished Pistol Shot,NRA Shotgun/Pistol Instructor NSSA All American, Skeet/Trap Range Owner

September 24, 2023, 11:16 AM	#20
Bucksnort1 Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2013 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 1,121	stuckinthe60s, Barrel is 26". I am replacing a broken firing pin and want to be sure I buy the right one. This is the reason I need the model. I'm guessing many of these single barrel guns by Stevens have same firing pin.

September 24, 2023, 03:31 PM	#21
stuckinthe60s Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2017 Location: Va., Ct., Mo.. Posts: 878	I know a lot of smiths that will take one close, and file it in. I will look around for you on that model number. back in the day when customers could go into numeric arms and lay a part down on the counter, and the clerk would come out with a box full of them to match I could have helped you. but now.....maybe you can send a pic of the guts opened up to them and they can do it via techno thingys. sometimes you can ask them to send 3 or 4 close matches. and send the rest back. worth a try. some of the early stevens 20ga's were known as the model 1913. others you might try would be the 94c 940b 107b good luck! __________________ Retired Military Aviation Former Member Navy Shooting Team Distinguished Pistol Shot,NRA Shotgun/Pistol Instructor NSSA All American, Skeet/Trap Range Owner Last edited by stuckinthe60s; September 24, 2023 at 03:46 PM.

September 24, 2023, 09:22 PM	#22
Bucksnort1 Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2013 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 1,121	60s, Great information. I'm wondering if I can attach a piece of round hard steel to the remaining portion of the firing pin by way of a JB Weld product. A good friend has a metal fabricating business. I'm sure the JB Weld won't work but it just might. I did a quick look on line for pins and found some that look like the piece I have. Thanks again.

September 25, 2023, 08:26 AM	#23
darkgael Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2006 Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania. Posts: 5,473	A suggestion: I have not seen a picture of what you have. I did tour through what Numrich Arms as for the model94 and a number of others. it would not be difficult to make a copy of the firing pin with a couple of files and a piece of drill rod. __________________ “Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” Ernest Hemingway ... NRA Life Member

September 25, 2023, 01:48 PM	#24
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,987	Forget the JB Weld. Firing pin tips made of drill rod can sometimes be hard-soldered (silver brazed) into a hole on the original pin. The tip has to be fitted to the frame, and dry firing is strongly discouraged. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

September 25, 2023, 09:55 PM	#25
Bucksnort1 Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2013 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 1,121	Bill DeShivs, Your comment is interesting. Thank you for the information. My friend, the one who does metal fabrication, will make a new firing pin tip to attach to the pin base. He asked me to measure the diameter of the remaining tip, which is 0.1195" (that's the best I can do with my dial caliper) then he asked me to measure the I.D. of the opening where the pin is inserted in the receiver to be sure the hardened high speed M2 tool steel rod he has will fit the opening with room to move. The diameter of the M2 is 0.116". I don't recall the I.D. of the opening. This man does wonderful work. I've seen some of the beautiful gates, pergolas and ramadas he has designed and built.