gemtech blackside

REDCELL · February 9, 2007, 10:29 AM

has anyone bought one of these. how well do they suppress the sound.
i'm getting it for my hk tactical 45.

this one one seems to be on the cheaper end of the scale. why is knights almost 3x the price.

also a .45 is a better cartridge to start with because of the lower fps speed right?

jackel · February 10, 2007, 12:33 AM

Personally I have never shot a suppressed 45. I have herd they are louder than you would think. I have a suppressed Beretta 9mm with the Gemtech Trinity. I use 147 gr round nose bullets 4.4 gr Vihtavuori powder it sounds nice and quiet. I think you would be happy starting out with the 9mm. I would like to get a blackside though. There was just a resent thread about the 9 vs 45 I think will help you.

VUPDblue · February 10, 2007, 12:13 PM

.45's are not the easiest to suppress. They have a lot of case volume, create a lot of gas and have a big diameter hole in the middle of the suppressor. All of these things add up to a noisy can. They do suppress the report to a level much below that of a non-suppressed weapon, but are far from being the quietest caliber to suppress. If it is an option, you may want to look into suppressing a 9mm for *really quiet* shooting.

Syntax360 · February 10, 2007, 06:01 PM

I think this video from MDW guns does a good job representing how loud a suppressed .45 can be - you can hear the echo pretty good. A far cry from unsuppressed, but I doubt anyone would argue that it is whisper quiet.

Legion2600 · February 10, 2007, 06:33 PM

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I have herd they are louder than you would think.

They are indeed. I have a Gemtech SOS-45 on a 1911 and it is louder than I'd like but is still pretty neat. Outside not bad. Inside - loud.

REDCELL · February 11, 2007, 12:01 PM

does anyone know of any sound bites/video of suppressed handguns. i'm only going what i've seen in movies and tv and i'm sure not only is it exaggerated but ot even the sound of that gun

VUPDblue · February 11, 2007, 12:18 PM

just go to youtube and search for silencer or suppressor.

MDW Guns · February 12, 2007, 07:12 PM

The new Blackside is quite a bit less loud then the SOS-45 I made this video with.
I will soon make a new video.
I have to say soon, because the first Blackside was bought before I could film it!

Zak Smith · February 12, 2007, 08:12 PM

The Blackside shot dry is much louder than an EVO-9, and I would not fire it without ears.

The Blackside shot wet is quiet, but will smoke a lot.

(This was dry.)

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February 9, 2007, 10:29 AM	#1
REDCELL Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 174	gemtech blackside has anyone bought one of these. how well do they suppress the sound. i'm getting it for my hk tactical 45. this one one seems to be on the cheaper end of the scale. why is knights almost 3x the price. also a .45 is a better cartridge to start with because of the lower fps speed right? __________________ HK: No Compromise Sic vis pacem, para bellum. If you want peace, prepare for war

February 10, 2007, 12:33 AM	#2
jackel Junior Member Join Date: September 11, 2006 Posts: 9	blackside Personally I have never shot a suppressed 45. I have herd they are louder than you would think. I have a suppressed Beretta 9mm with the Gemtech Trinity. I use 147 gr round nose bullets 4.4 gr Vihtavuori powder it sounds nice and quiet. I think you would be happy starting out with the 9mm. I would like to get a blackside though. There was just a resent thread about the 9 vs 45 I think will help you.

February 10, 2007, 12:13 PM	#3
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	.45's are not the easiest to suppress. They have a lot of case volume, create a lot of gas and have a big diameter hole in the middle of the suppressor. All of these things add up to a noisy can. They do suppress the report to a level much below that of a non-suppressed weapon, but are far from being the quietest caliber to suppress. If it is an option, you may want to look into suppressing a 9mm for really quiet shooting. __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

February 11, 2007, 12:01 PM	#6
REDCELL Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 174	does anyone know of any sound bites/video of suppressed handguns. i'm only going what i've seen in movies and tv and i'm sure not only is it exaggerated but ot even the sound of that gun __________________ HK: No Compromise Sic vis pacem, para bellum. If you want peace, prepare for war

February 11, 2007, 12:18 PM	#7
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	just go to youtube and search for silencer or suppressor. __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

February 10, 2007, 06:01 PM	#4
Syntax360 Senior Member Join Date: April 17, 2006 Location: Grand Prairie, TX Posts: 694	I think this video from MDW guns does a good job representing how loud a suppressed .45 can be - you can hear the echo pretty good. A far cry from unsuppressed, but I doubt anyone would argue that it is whisper quiet.

February 12, 2007, 07:12 PM	#8
MDW Guns Member Join Date: January 31, 2006 Location: Maine USA Posts: 86	The new Blackside is quite a bit less loud then the SOS-45 I made this video with. I will soon make a new video. I have to say soon, because the first Blackside was bought before I could film it! __________________ ARMED MEN ARE CITIZENS UNARMED MEN ARE SUBJECTS NRA, FWR 2711 Check www.mdwguns.com for great deals!

February 12, 2007, 08:12 PM	#9
Zak Smith Senior Member Join Date: December 12, 1999 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado, USA Posts: 2,682	The Blackside shot dry is much louder than an EVO-9, and I would not fire it without ears. The Blackside shot wet is quiet, but will smoke a lot. (This was dry.) [ link to LARGER image ] __________________ Zak Smith . DEMIGOD LLC . THUNDER BEAST ARMS CORP . COLORADO MULTI-GUN *My PM inbox full? Send e-mail instead.*