Need suggestions for shotgun sights

peeshooter · March 25, 2010, 08:25 PM

I have a Mossberg 590 that I want to put sights on. My thoughts are I would like to put a post and ring sight on. I have seen kinda what I want on some gunshows but not had any luck finding what I've seen.

Please provide you opinions pros, cons and suggestions of brands, styles etc...

Thanks as always

Old Grump · March 26, 2010, 02:28 PM

Ghost Ring® Sight Kit - Model 500®/590® Conversion Kit includes the Rear Sight and Front Sight and Base for non-ribbed barrels (gunsmithing required)., , SKU 95300

http://www.mossberg.com/cgi-bin/comm...&category=SIGH

oneounceload · March 26, 2010, 03:00 PM

What are you using the shotgun for?

peeshooter · March 26, 2010, 11:21 PM

"What are you using your shotgun for?"...Re: To shoot stuff. Will shotguns do my taxes, that would be awsome! I hate doing my taxes. When I start doing my taxes, I want to shoot stuff! Does your shotgun do taxes? If so i will buy it! All of my guns pretty much do one thing... shoot things. I tried training it to get the paper, but no luck.

jaguarxk120 · March 27, 2010, 07:41 AM

Oneounce is trying to help you. A shotgun is a pointing gun. Generally when shooting at targets or game one is looking over the barrel and the target. Sights are used when using slugloads for larger game or when hunting turkey as a extra full choke is used.
Usually a front bead and maybe a smaller middle bead will work for most aplications. If you were to talk to trap or skeet shooters many will tell you they don't even look at the bead, just the target.

colostomyclown · March 27, 2010, 06:16 PM

somebody school this mall ninja

oneounceload · March 27, 2010, 07:05 PM

sorry - naivete is one thing, acting like an immature teenager gets you no where with me - try not to shoot your foot off as bad as your mouth and have some fun

colostomyclown · March 27, 2010, 08:05 PM

hahaha. /owned

zippy13 · March 27, 2010, 08:05 PM

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt — Abraham Lincoln

Hank15 · March 27, 2010, 08:09 PM

We know you are using the shotgun to shoot things, we were wondering what specific application(s) you had in mind. It's difficult to tell whether you are trying to be witty or sardonic over the internet, so try not to do that next time.

For most applications, a front bead will do.

For clay sports, you don't really need any sights because you are supposed to be looking at the target. The bead just serves as a point of reference.

For tactical applications, i.e. home defense, well....a front bead will also do.

For the price of a good ghost ring sight + installation, you might as well buy a shotgun that come with a ghost ring sight. Or buy a barrel that comes with rifle sights.

If you really want to add new sights on your shotgun, I would recommend truglo, hiviz, or XS sights. If you have the extra cash, send it to Robar, Vang Comp, or Wilson Combat.

My experience with aftermarket sights is that they serve better as training tools.

When I first bought my Wingmaster I had difficulty shooting with both eyes open and figuring out if I have shouldered the gun properly, so I bought a hiviz fiber optic front sight. After a few trips to the fields, I decided that it hindered me more than it aided me, so I took it off. It did help me though, so to me, the $18 was well spent.

If you are planning to use this gun, a pattern board and an assortment of shells will serve you better in the long run. If you just want it for mall ninja looks, ATI products will be just fine, as long as you don't use them.

Your results may vary from mine. Good luck and safe shooting.

colostomyclown · March 27, 2010, 08:12 PM

But teh video gamezzz sez i needz a laser scopez!

oneounceload · March 27, 2010, 08:13 PM

Hank - you have the patience of Job - bless you

shortwave · March 27, 2010, 08:51 PM

I don`t understand what's going on with some of the people on TFL. Just came off of "semi-auto" forum and read a guy asking a question. He got a smart a%$^ response from another guy thats apparently new to TFL. The wiseguy has posted all of 4 times.
Peeshooter, you've just got smart with one of the most knowledgeable shotgunner's here on TFL. There's reason's for his question.
Its apparent you don't know that there's different sight applications thats best for what you want to do with your shotgun.
Its also apparent that you'll probably not get to many questions answered being a smart a#$# here on TFL.
Care to start over?

peeshooter · March 27, 2010, 11:23 PM

It kills me when you ask a specific question, someone goes into a philosophical debate on what you need or don't need. I thought we were getting into one of those.

I would understand the question if i said i had a Remington LT 20 1100 upland bird gun that i wanted to put sights on. I should not assume that one would see that if i had a 590 that I wasn't hunting with it. Maybe I was quick to judge, my apologies. I thought it was a funny answer to a vague question.

Sorry about my smart ass answer. Although, again, i thought it was funny.

I want the simulate the sight consitency between the M-4 and the shotgun in transition. Also thinking about getting into matches where distant targets are present or for simply versatility. I want the option and the opportunity to try it and determine if i like it or not.

RGR3/75 · March 28, 2010, 01:13 AM

http://www.wilsoncombat.com/sa_traklock.asp these are what i have and they're the best i've seen. i don't mean to destroy your chi but honestly, unless you're doing a 3 gun or plan on breaking down a bank, i wouldn't worry about it. shotgun is an area weapon man. if you just so happen to find yourself in the situation where you have to transition from your main gat to a shotgun, you'll be shooting with both eyes open (closed in some cases) pointing right at their chest. if anything, i would suggest buying just a tritium front sight. even those tru glow sights will do. it'll just be easier to acquire your target than a bead.

oneounceload · March 28, 2010, 08:43 AM

Quote:

I want the simulate the sight consitency between the M-4 and the shotgun in transition. Also thinking about getting into matches where distant targets are present or for simply versatility. I want the option and the opportunity to try it and determine if i like it or not.

NOW you're being mission-specific and you should be able to get mission-specific answers

colostomyclown · March 28, 2010, 10:16 AM

AiRSoFt MiSsIoNz FTW

hogdogs · March 28, 2010, 11:05 AM

Quote:

It kills me when you ask a specific question

Quote:

"What are you using your shotgun for?"...Re: To shoot stuff. All of my guns pretty much do one thing... shoot things.

Pretty much the opposite of Specific, don'tcha think?...

But glad folks were able to cipher and get some specifics to what you need...

As for sights, I know when I pick up a shotgun I am holding a different weapon in my hands and all the nuances of rifle/handgun action are replaced with those of the shotgun and all the various ammo variants I will use. I prefer a brass bead but no bead is my second choice.

Brent

noyes · March 28, 2010, 11:34 AM

Old Grump · March 28, 2010, 02:18 PM

Apparently nobody paid attention to what shotgun the sight was being requested for. I based my recommendation on that with the assumption that he didn't buy that particular model gun for duck or pheasant hunting.

shortwave · March 28, 2010, 03:44 PM

Quote:

I based my recommendation on that with the assumption that he didn't buy that particular model gun for duck or pheasant hunting

...and your assumption is most likely correct...

Although my brother-n-law, which has never hunted in his life and knows nothing about firearms, showed up at my house with his brand new/never fired 590 the night before deer shotgun season and asked "what stand he was going to be placed on in the morning".

. Ya just never know!

For HD, I prefer bead or nothing as the business at hand wouldn't require sights on a shotgun. Would be more `point` shooting. This question isn't about what I prefer sooo...

Old Grump is probably on track to what peeshooter's describing.

Hank15 · March 29, 2010, 02:00 AM

Thanks oneounce

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I want the simulate the sight consitency between the M-4 and the shotgun in transition. Also thinking about getting into matches where distant targets are present or for simply versatility. I want the option and the opportunity to try it and determine if i like it or not.

I don't know much about your M4, but I am assuming it has ghost ring sights as well. That being said, the sights on your M4 will likely be much smaller than most ghost ring sights found on shotguns.

I would suggest you replace both sights with similarly sized ghost ring sights for the best consistency.

http://www.xssights.com/store/tactical.html

http://www.xssights.com/store/shotgun.html

I think the two above should make the perfect pair.

However, since you are thinking about competition in the future, I would recommend you try out other people's gear first. Some people shoot better with a red dot sight, some people shoot better with iron sights, you never know.

Good luck and safe shooting.

March 25, 2010, 08:25 PM	#1
peeshooter Member Join Date: December 16, 2005 Posts: 98	Need suggestions for shotgun sights I have a Mossberg 590 that I want to put sights on. My thoughts are I would like to put a post and ring sight on. I have seen kinda what I want on some gunshows but not had any luck finding what I've seen. Please provide you opinions pros, cons and suggestions of brands, styles etc... Thanks as always

March 26, 2010, 02:28 PM	#2
Old Grump Member in memoriam Join Date: April 9, 2009 Location: Blue River Wisconsin, in Posts: 3,144	Ghost Ring® Sight Kit - Model 500®/590® Conversion Kit includes the Rear Sight and Front Sight and Base for non-ribbed barrels (gunsmithing required)., , SKU 95300 http://www.mossberg.com/cgi-bin/comm...&category=SIGH __________________ Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern will, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. --Daniel Webster--

March 26, 2010, 11:21 PM	#4
peeshooter Member Join Date: December 16, 2005 Posts: 98	"What are you using your shotgun for?"...Re: To shoot stuff. Will shotguns do my taxes, that would be awsome! I hate doing my taxes. When I start doing my taxes, I want to shoot stuff! Does your shotgun do taxes? If so i will buy it! All of my guns pretty much do one thing... shoot things. I tried training it to get the paper, but no luck. Last edited by peeshooter; March 26, 2010 at 11:32 PM.

March 27, 2010, 11:23 PM	#14
peeshooter Member Join Date: December 16, 2005 Posts: 98	It kills me when you ask a specific question, someone goes into a philosophical debate on what you need or don't need. I thought we were getting into one of those. I would understand the question if i said i had a Remington LT 20 1100 upland bird gun that i wanted to put sights on. I should not assume that one would see that if i had a 590 that I wasn't hunting with it. Maybe I was quick to judge, my apologies. I thought it was a funny answer to a vague question. Sorry about my smart ass answer. Although, again, i thought it was funny. I want the simulate the sight consitency between the M-4 and the shotgun in transition. Also thinking about getting into matches where distant targets are present or for simply versatility. I want the option and the opportunity to try it and determine if i like it or not. Last edited by peeshooter; March 27, 2010 at 11:38 PM.

March 28, 2010, 01:13 AM	#15
RGR3/75 Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2009 Location: Colorado Springs CO/Columbus GA Posts: 154	http://www.wilsoncombat.com/sa_traklock.asp these are what i have and they're the best i've seen. i don't mean to destroy your chi but honestly, unless you're doing a 3 gun or plan on breaking down a bank, i wouldn't worry about it. shotgun is an area weapon man. if you just so happen to find yourself in the situation where you have to transition from your main gat to a shotgun, you'll be shooting with both eyes open (closed in some cases) pointing right at their chest. if anything, i would suggest buying just a tritium front sight. even those tru glow sights will do. it'll just be easier to acquire your target than a bead. __________________ True Grit

March 26, 2010, 03:00 PM	#3
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	What are you using the shotgun for?

March 27, 2010, 07:41 AM	#5
jaguarxk120 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,620	Oneounce is trying to help you. A shotgun is a pointing gun. Generally when shooting at targets or game one is looking over the barrel and the target. Sights are used when using slugloads for larger game or when hunting turkey as a extra full choke is used. Usually a front bead and maybe a smaller middle bead will work for most aplications. If you were to talk to trap or skeet shooters many will tell you they don't even look at the bead, just the target.

March 27, 2010, 06:16 PM	#6
colostomyclown Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2009 Posts: 613	somebody school this mall ninja

March 27, 2010, 07:05 PM	#7
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	sorry - naivete is one thing, acting like an immature teenager gets you no where with me - try not to shoot your foot off as bad as your mouth and have some fun

March 27, 2010, 08:05 PM	#8
colostomyclown Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2009 Posts: 613	hahaha. /owned

March 27, 2010, 08:05 PM	#9
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt — Abraham Lincoln

March 27, 2010, 08:09 PM	#10
Hank15 Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2009 Location: California Posts: 437	We know you are using the shotgun to shoot things, we were wondering what specific application(s) you had in mind. It's difficult to tell whether you are trying to be witty or sardonic over the internet, so try not to do that next time. For most applications, a front bead will do. For clay sports, you don't really need any sights because you are supposed to be looking at the target. The bead just serves as a point of reference. For tactical applications, i.e. home defense, well....a front bead will also do. For the price of a good ghost ring sight + installation, you might as well buy a shotgun that come with a ghost ring sight. Or buy a barrel that comes with rifle sights. If you really want to add new sights on your shotgun, I would recommend truglo, hiviz, or XS sights. If you have the extra cash, send it to Robar, Vang Comp, or Wilson Combat. My experience with aftermarket sights is that they serve better as training tools. When I first bought my Wingmaster I had difficulty shooting with both eyes open and figuring out if I have shouldered the gun properly, so I bought a hiviz fiber optic front sight. After a few trips to the fields, I decided that it hindered me more than it aided me, so I took it off. It did help me though, so to me, the $18 was well spent. If you are planning to use this gun, a pattern board and an assortment of shells will serve you better in the long run. If you just want it for mall ninja looks, ATI products will be just fine, as long as you don't use them. Your results may vary from mine. Good luck and safe shooting.

March 27, 2010, 08:12 PM	#11
colostomyclown Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2009 Posts: 613	But teh video gamezzz sez i needz a laser scopez!

March 27, 2010, 08:13 PM	#12
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Hank - you have the patience of Job - bless you

March 27, 2010, 08:51 PM	#13
shortwave Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2007 Location: SOUTHEAST, OHIO Posts: 5,970	I don`t understand what's going on with some of the people on TFL. Just came off of "semi-auto" forum and read a guy asking a question. He got a smart a%$^ response from another guy thats apparently new to TFL. The wiseguy has posted all of 4 times. Peeshooter, you've just got smart with one of the most knowledgeable shotgunner's here on TFL. There's reason's for his question. Its apparent you don't know that there's different sight applications thats best for what you want to do with your shotgun. Its also apparent that you'll probably not get to many questions answered being a smart a#$# here on TFL. Care to start over?

March 28, 2010, 10:16 AM	#17
colostomyclown Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2009 Posts: 613	AiRSoFt MiSsIoNz FTW

March 28, 2010, 11:34 AM	#19
noyes Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2008 Posts: 1,032	Last edited by noyes; March 30, 2010 at 09:06 AM.

March 28, 2010, 02:18 PM	#20
Old Grump Member in memoriam Join Date: April 9, 2009 Location: Blue River Wisconsin, in Posts: 3,144	Apparently nobody paid attention to what shotgun the sight was being requested for. I based my recommendation on that with the assumption that he didn't buy that particular model gun for duck or pheasant hunting. __________________ Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern will, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. --Daniel Webster--