Trapdoors

Tidewater_Kid · June 6, 2015, 05:03 PM

Thanks to Doc Hoy, my trapdoor addiction continues to grow. I enjoy shooting these so much. Always fun at the range with lots of smoke and fun questions. Love popping the 100 yard gong with these and look at the guys with the ARs with a smile!

Thanks Doc!

TK

Chris_B · June 6, 2015, 05:22 PM

Nice shootin irons

Tidewater_Kid · June 6, 2015, 05:39 PM

Thanks! They are a joy to shoot.

First picture -Top one is an 1884 (made around 1890) and the bottom is a 1868 model made around 1870.

Second picture - both are 1866 models with cut barrels. The top one is in the Bannerman style.m

TK

toot44 · June 12, 2015, 08:26 AM

are the early ones in 50/70? great looking heard.

Trum4n1208 · June 12, 2015, 09:38 AM

I recently put down money on a Trapdoor rifle myself. I'm very excited for it. Cool old rifles.

davem · June 12, 2015, 12:08 PM

What kinds of groups do you get?

TomADC · June 12, 2015, 12:19 PM

I have one of the newer ones a H&R Officers Model the centennial one.

AKexpat · June 12, 2015, 06:47 PM

My Dad had an 1873 .45-70 that he inherited after my Grandfather died in 1965. Dad, being the quintessential refinisher of all firearms he owned, refinished all of the wood, reblued all the metal that showed, and it looked purty!

I was only in my teens when he did all that but I remember all of the patina and the condition of the wood before he performed his "magic". He probably decreased the value by at least 50%. It served as a wallhanger and an occaisional shooter thereafter. I remember shooting it with low pressure 405 grain smokeless loads, and what a thump to the shoulder for a 15-year-old!

Sigh. I have no idea where it is now.

Tidewater_Kid · June 12, 2015, 08:27 PM

I do love these rifles. The 1866 and 1868 rifles are in 50-70 and I cast my own bullets and reload with real FFg and Pyrodex RS. The 1884 model is in 45-70 and is very accurate, but shoots about 12 inches high at 50 yards with the 405 grain bullets. I need to get the heavier 500 grain bullet mold for that one. I heard that will lower the point of impact.

The 1868 rifle will hold 4-5 inch groups at 100 yards. That is about as good as I can see at that distance. I'm sure someone else could do better, but I can still hit the 12" gong with it almost every time.

Thanks for looking!
TK

Tidewater_Kid · June 12, 2015, 08:29 PM

Tom,

I would love to find an original Officer's model! Yours is still a great looking rifle.

TK

Bishop Creek · June 12, 2015, 10:19 PM

The first big bore rifle that I ever fired was an original 45-70 that belonged to a friend's dad who let me shoot it when I was 14 back in 1964. Smokeless rounds back then, "ouch" on the shoulder is right.

June 6, 2015, 05:39 PM	#3
Tidewater_Kid Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 925	Thanks! They are a joy to shoot. First picture -Top one is an 1884 (made around 1890) and the bottom is a 1868 model made around 1870. Second picture - both are 1866 models with cut barrels. The top one is in the Bannerman style.m TK Last edited by Tidewater_Kid; June 7, 2015 at 08:19 AM.

June 12, 2015, 08:26 AM	#4
toot44 Member Join Date: November 25, 2012 Posts: 83	trap doors are the early ones in 50/70? great looking heard.

June 12, 2015, 12:19 PM	#7
TomADC Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2009 Location: San Diego County Posts: 795	I have one of the newer ones a H&R Officers Model the centennial one. __________________ US Navy Retired,NRA Life Member,SASS member, Time magazine's Person of the Year 2006!

June 12, 2015, 06:47 PM	#8
AKexpat Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2014 Location: SW WA State Posts: 490	My Dad had an 1873 .45-70 that he inherited after my Grandfather died in 1965. Dad, being the quintessential refinisher of all firearms he owned, refinished all of the wood, reblued all the metal that showed, and it looked purty! I was only in my teens when he did all that but I remember all of the patina and the condition of the wood before he performed his "magic". He probably decreased the value by at least 50%. It served as a wallhanger and an occaisional shooter thereafter. I remember shooting it with low pressure 405 grain smokeless loads, and what a thump to the shoulder for a 15-year-old! Sigh. I have no idea where it is now. __________________ To be governed – is to be watched, inspected, directed, indoctrinated, numbered, estimated, regulated, commanded, controlled, law-driven, preached at, spied upon, censured, checked, valued, enrolled – by creatures who have neither the right, nor the wisdom, nor the virtue to do so. - Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

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June 6, 2015, 05:22 PM	#2
Chris_B Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2007 Posts: 3,101	Nice shootin irons

June 12, 2015, 09:38 AM	#5
Trum4n1208 Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2013 Posts: 173	I recently put down money on a Trapdoor rifle myself. I'm very excited for it. Cool old rifles.

June 12, 2015, 12:08 PM	#6
davem Junior member Join Date: October 4, 2004 Posts: 458	What kinds of groups do you get?

June 12, 2015, 08:27 PM	#9
Tidewater_Kid Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 925	I do love these rifles. The 1866 and 1868 rifles are in 50-70 and I cast my own bullets and reload with real FFg and Pyrodex RS. The 1884 model is in 45-70 and is very accurate, but shoots about 12 inches high at 50 yards with the 405 grain bullets. I need to get the heavier 500 grain bullet mold for that one. I heard that will lower the point of impact. The 1868 rifle will hold 4-5 inch groups at 100 yards. That is about as good as I can see at that distance. I'm sure someone else could do better, but I can still hit the 12" gong with it almost every time. Thanks for looking! TK

June 12, 2015, 08:29 PM	#10
Tidewater_Kid Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 925	Tom, I would love to find an original Officer's model! Yours is still a great looking rifle. TK

June 12, 2015, 10:19 PM	#11
Bishop Creek Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2011 Posts: 566	The first big bore rifle that I ever fired was an original 45-70 that belonged to a friend's dad who let me shoot it when I was 14 back in 1964. Smokeless rounds back then, "ouch" on the shoulder is right.