Post No. 1000 - Ammo Headstamp Question

FPrice · August 16, 2002, 01:10 PM

Looked at the number of posts I had made recently and saw that i was coming up on number 1,000. I guess that means that I really AM a TFL regular now!

Anyways, to my question. I recently got some M-1 Carbine ammo with the headstamp, "PSD 86". I am sure the 86 refers to a 1986 manufacture date, but who is PSD?

The ammo looks nice, bright and shiny, not sure it had a military crimp on the priner pocket, will have to check again. Does anyone know who made this and have any comments on how it shoots?

Thanks.

Johnny Guest · August 16, 2002, 03:25 PM

I have maybe 700 rounds of same headstamp ammo next to my desk, even as I write. Guy from whom I bought it at last Dallas Market Hall Gun Show told me it was Korean Military ammo manufactured by PMC. This came 1080 rounds in what I would call a .50 cal ammo can--Twelve stripper clips per bandoleer.

I don't read Korean, but can sort of recognize the type characters, so I believe that's what it is.

On one side of the can, it shows (in English

):

1080 CAL .30 CARTRIDGES
CARBINE BALL KM1
10 RD CLIPS, BANDOLEERS
LOT PSD87A110-109

Other side shows an approximation of the above, in Korean characters, with the same Arabic numerals.

Top shows
'86 [four Korean characters] -029

Matt and I shot about 120 rounds from two GI carbines a couple of weekends back. Matt, with his younger eyes and steadier nerves, turned in one sub-three-inch group with my Winchester, which has a better trigger than his. I am well pleased with the ammo and the carbines. I will probably try to buy some more of the ammo.

Congrats on your One Thousandth Post, amigo!

Best,
Johnny Guest

**Mike Irwin** · August 16, 2002, 07:51 PM

While I don't have anything that specifically confirms this, I'm betting that it's from Poonsang Arsenal.

FPrice · August 21, 2002, 07:19 PM

Thanks for the info. I apologize for not getting back to you guys earlier, but things have been busy around here.

My ammo does have those markings you describe, Johnny. It looks like we have ammo from the same lot. I had thought it might be the same stuff CMP was selling, but I can;t find out for sure. IF I am lucky, Imight get some of it out to the range this weekend and see how it works.

johnwill · August 22, 2002, 07:29 AM

I have a case of the stuff that CMP was selling, and mine is Lake City 72 headstamp, I don't think what you have is CMP ammo...

FPrice · August 22, 2002, 08:24 PM

It would seem that you are correct. I kind of wondered because of the packaging (bandoleers in an ammo can) but I guess that is a standard method of packaging.

As long as it has decent accuracy I suppose it doesn't matter who made it.

August 16, 2002, 01:10 PM	#1
FPrice Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2000 Location: People's Commonwealth of Massachusetts Posts: 1,456	Post No. 1000 - Ammo Headstamp Question Looked at the number of posts I had made recently and saw that i was coming up on number 1,000. I guess that means that I really AM a TFL regular now! Anyways, to my question. I recently got some M-1 Carbine ammo with the headstamp, "PSD 86". I am sure the 86 refers to a 1986 manufacture date, but who is PSD? The ammo looks nice, bright and shiny, not sure it had a military crimp on the priner pocket, will have to check again. Does anyone know who made this and have any comments on how it shoots? Thanks. __________________ Frosty Price "No matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Banzai

August 16, 2002, 03:25 PM	#2
Johnny Guest Moderator in Memoriam Join Date: August 28, 1999 Location: North Texas Posts: 4,123	Interesting you should ask, Frosty - - - I have maybe 700 rounds of same headstamp ammo next to my desk, even as I write. Guy from whom I bought it at last Dallas Market Hall Gun Show told me it was Korean Military ammo manufactured by PMC. This came 1080 rounds in what I would call a .50 cal ammo can--Twelve stripper clips per bandoleer. I don't read Korean, but can sort of recognize the type characters, so I believe that's what it is. On one side of the can, it shows (in English ): 1080 CAL .30 CARTRIDGES CARBINE BALL KM1 10 RD CLIPS, BANDOLEERS LOT PSD87A110-109 Other side shows an approximation of the above, in Korean characters, with the same Arabic numerals. Top shows '86 [four Korean characters] -029 Matt and I shot about 120 rounds from two GI carbines a couple of weekends back. Matt, with his younger eyes and steadier nerves, turned in one sub-three-inch group with my Winchester, which has a better trigger than his. I am well pleased with the ammo and the carbines. I will probably try to buy some more of the ammo. Congrats on your One Thousandth Post, amigo! Best, Johnny Guest

August 16, 2002, 07:51 PM	#3
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,379	While I don't have anything that specifically confirms this, I'm betting that it's from Poonsang Arsenal. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

August 21, 2002, 07:19 PM	#4
FPrice Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2000 Location: People's Commonwealth of Massachusetts Posts: 1,456	Johnny and Mike... Thanks for the info. I apologize for not getting back to you guys earlier, but things have been busy around here. My ammo does have those markings you describe, Johnny. It looks like we have ammo from the same lot. I had thought it might be the same stuff CMP was selling, but I can;t find out for sure. IF I am lucky, Imight get some of it out to the range this weekend and see how it works. __________________ Frosty Price "No matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Banzai

August 22, 2002, 07:29 AM	#5
johnwill Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2000 Location: PA Posts: 3,451	I have a case of the stuff that CMP was selling, and mine is Lake City 72 headstamp, I don't think what you have is CMP ammo... __________________ I collect old pistols, got any?

August 22, 2002, 08:24 PM	#6
FPrice Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2000 Location: People's Commonwealth of Massachusetts Posts: 1,456	johnwill... It would seem that you are correct. I kind of wondered because of the packaging (bandoleers in an ammo can) but I guess that is a standard method of packaging. As long as it has decent accuracy I suppose it doesn't matter who made it. __________________ Frosty Price "No matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Banzai

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