Nosler

300wsmman · July 1, 2007, 12:12 PM

I bought some realoading items, and for my bullet to reload is a Nosler Ballistic Tip 165 gr. I have heard some people say when they hit something that is thick skin they blow up. If i shot an elk with these reloads will they be fine or with they blow up when they hit an elk.

stinger · July 1, 2007, 12:17 PM

My guess is that it would work just fine. But I'd rather use a partitioned/bonded bullet. With the ballistic tips, penetration is iffy, while it is almost a guarantee that a bonded bullet is going to make adequate penetration.

snuffy · July 1, 2007, 12:25 PM

Ballistic bombs,,--err I mean tips? I would certainly go with something a lot heavier, more solid than a BT. If you're stuck on shooting Nosler, then the accubond is what you want, they make one in 180 grain.

For my Browning 300 WSM, I use the 165 Hornady interbond for deer. If I were to be so fortunate as to go elk hunting, I would go with the 180 interbond.

steve4102 · July 1, 2007, 12:26 PM

BT's are not a good choice for Elk. They are explosive and can come apart on impact. You will get a lot of verbiage from others on how great the BT is. You will have to make up your own mind.
I personally will not use a BT for any critter larger than a P Dog. As a matter of fact the BT and Combined Tech Ballistic Silver Tips are banned from out Whitetail camp.
If you want to use a plastic tipped bullet for hunting big game give the Accubond a try. Same design and accuracy as the BT, only better.

300wsmman · July 1, 2007, 03:40 PM

I am going to use my 165 Ballistic Tips for Antolpe and Deer, but i am looking for a bullet for elk. What Nosler Bullets work well for Elk. I was looking at the Fail Safe Gold, and just the reg. Fail Safe. Can anyone give me some advice.

**Bud Helms** · July 1, 2007, 04:10 PM

Threads merged.

Scorch · July 2, 2007, 01:36 PM

Years ago, I used to shoot Nosler Solid Base bullets exclusively, until Nosler decided to drop Solid Base bullets and only offer Ballistic tips. I saw some of the performance issues with the Nosler Ballistic Tips (145 gr NBT blew up on an antelope), so I switched to Nosler Partitions. I have been shooting Nosler Partitions for 20 years. Never had anything walk away when hit with a Nosler Partition.

Fail-safe are very tough and a great bullet for elk, but they are no longer made, from what I've read. I can't remember what the new bullet is called that took its place, but it was covered in one of the gun rags about a year ago.

M109 · July 6, 2007, 08:03 PM

Some years ago I had a 180gr 30 cal Ballistic Tip fail to go through the neck of a whitetail deer on a broadside shot at about 85 yards. The bullet broke up and diden't make it through the bone. This was out of a 30/06.

missoulaz28 · July 7, 2007, 12:27 AM

if you hit neck bone at 85 yards, just about anything but a bonded/partition style bullet will blow up

stinger · July 7, 2007, 09:44 AM

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if you hit neck bone at 85 yards, just about anything but a bonded/partition style bullet will blow up

I disagree. If any bullet but a ballistic tip (or other designed for such rapid expansion) blows up, then I consider that a bullet failure. If'n my 150g Sierra Pro Hunters blew up on a neck bone, they would never again be used by me.

kingudaroad · July 7, 2007, 12:59 PM

Me and my son have shot a couple dozen deer with my current 270 load using a 130 gr bt. 100% had exit wounds, 100% wound up in the freezer. Some of these shots went through shoulders neck bones and spines.

I have no experience with elk.

July 1, 2007, 12:12 PM	#1
300wsmman Member Join Date: June 7, 2007 Posts: 15	Nosler I bought some realoading items, and for my bullet to reload is a Nosler Ballistic Tip 165 gr. I have heard some people say when they hit something that is thick skin they blow up. If i shot an elk with these reloads will they be fine or with they blow up when they hit an elk.

July 1, 2007, 12:25 PM	#3
snuffy Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2001 Location: Oshkosh wi. Posts: 3,055	Ballistic bombs,,--err I mean tips? I would certainly go with something a lot heavier, more solid than a BT. If you're stuck on shooting Nosler, then the accubond is what you want, they make one in 180 grain. For my Browning 300 WSM, I use the 165 Hornady interbond for deer. If I were to be so fortunate as to go elk hunting, I would go with the 180 interbond. __________________ The more people I meet, the more I love my dog They're going to get their butts kicked over there this election. How come people can't spell and use words correctly?

July 1, 2007, 03:40 PM	#5
300wsmman Member Join Date: June 7, 2007 Posts: 15	Nosler Bullets I am going to use my 165 Ballistic Tips for Antolpe and Deer, but i am looking for a bullet for elk. What Nosler Bullets work well for Elk. I was looking at the Fail Safe Gold, and just the reg. Fail Safe. Can anyone give me some advice.

July 2, 2007, 01:36 PM	#7
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	Years ago, I used to shoot Nosler Solid Base bullets exclusively, until Nosler decided to drop Solid Base bullets and only offer Ballistic tips. I saw some of the performance issues with the Nosler Ballistic Tips (145 gr NBT blew up on an antelope), so I switched to Nosler Partitions. I have been shooting Nosler Partitions for 20 years. Never had anything walk away when hit with a Nosler Partition. Fail-safe are very tough and a great bullet for elk, but they are no longer made, from what I've read. I can't remember what the new bullet is called that took its place, but it was covered in one of the gun rags about a year ago. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

July 1, 2007, 12:17 PM	#2
stinger Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2001 Location: west texas Posts: 772	My guess is that it would work just fine. But I'd rather use a partitioned/bonded bullet. With the ballistic tips, penetration is iffy, while it is almost a guarantee that a bonded bullet is going to make adequate penetration.

July 1, 2007, 12:26 PM	#4
steve4102 Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,952	BT's are not a good choice for Elk. They are explosive and can come apart on impact. You will get a lot of verbiage from others on how great the BT is. You will have to make up your own mind. I personally will not use a BT for any critter larger than a P Dog. As a matter of fact the BT and Combined Tech Ballistic Silver Tips are banned from out Whitetail camp. If you want to use a plastic tipped bullet for hunting big game give the Accubond a try. Same design and accuracy as the BT, only better.

July 1, 2007, 04:10 PM	#6
Bud Helms Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 1999 Location: Middle Georgia, USA Posts: 13,198	Threads merged.

July 6, 2007, 08:03 PM	#8
M109 Junior Member Join Date: June 8, 2007 Posts: 5	Some years ago I had a 180gr 30 cal Ballistic Tip fail to go through the neck of a whitetail deer on a broadside shot at about 85 yards. The bullet broke up and diden't make it through the bone. This was out of a 30/06.

July 7, 2007, 12:27 AM	#9
missoulaz28 Member Join Date: December 14, 2006 Posts: 37	if you hit neck bone at 85 yards, just about anything but a bonded/partition style bullet will blow up

July 7, 2007, 12:59 PM	#11
kingudaroad Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2005 Location: austin Posts: 735	Me and my son have shot a couple dozen deer with my current 270 load using a 130 gr bt. 100% had exit wounds, 100% wound up in the freezer. Some of these shots went through shoulders neck bones and spines. I have no experience with elk.