11-87 Magazine tube came out of receiver

Red Dot · September 27, 2004, 08:02 AM

Hello All,
I was out on the trap range today shooting my 11-87 Sporting Clays when the action locked up. I couldn't pull the bolt back and I noticed that the barrel had moved forward from the receiver about 1/4". Upon pulling the trigger group out and removing the action bar assembly & bolt, I saw that the mag tube had disconnected itself from the receiver. Not good!
It looks as if this part is silver soldered in at the factory before the receiver is blued. My question is can I use a Loctite product or epoxy to resecure the mag tube into the receiver instead of silver solder? Does anyone know of any other product which I can use to put this back together?

See ya,
Red Dot

PzB41 · October 27, 2004, 06:09 PM

Hi Red Dot,

Sorry to hear about the mag tube coming out at an inopportune time.

Hate to say it, but that mag tube is silver-soldered in for a reason. If they could have gotten away with a binary epoxy or something from Devcon at the factory, they would have. Cheaper to glue it in instead of sliver soldering it.

Either have a pro in your area who has Remington's blessing silver solder it back in place, or send it back to the factory to be repaired. No other way around it.

Pz

Dfariswheel · October 27, 2004, 06:51 PM

Remington brazes their mag tubes in place with a brass based brazing compound.

There is nothing that will secure the tube that will stand up to shooting.

This is NOT a job for the average local gunsmith, since there are issues with getting the tube properly positioned, straight, and properly aligned.

Before it can be re-brazed, the ejector assembly and the shell releases will have to be removed.

Also, there are problems with protecting the receiver's heat treating.

Remington will reattach the tube and refinish your receiver.

I'd guess that this will be a free repair, since a loose tube is a sure sign of a defective assembly from the get-go.

PzB41 · October 27, 2004, 08:28 PM

You're right.. they do braze them in instead of sliver soldering them. Guess my pain meds are making me fuzzy. Still, we agree on the whole "can I just glue it in?" thing. Very bad idea.

Thing I dislike the most about Remington shotguns is the ejector and the ejector rivet. They put this crummy stamped thing in there to act as an ejector, and if it breaks, which happens too damn often for my liking, it has to go back to the factory to get replaced. I had a long talk with the Remington Service Shop one afternoon about the problem, the end result being they sent me a bag of rivets and ejectors to play with. Lucky for me I had a couple of junked shotguns laying around to practice on. It ain't easy. No way can a smithy make money replacing those things.

I never understood why they didn't just replace the rivet with a dome head screw arrangement and be done with it, as often as the ejector breaks. A drop of red locktite and you're done. But then, Remington likes stamped ejectors and extractors for some reason I've never been able to figure out (unless it's budget-related).

Pz

September 27, 2004, 08:02 AM	#1
Red Dot Junior Member Join Date: August 7, 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 5	11-87 Magazine tube came out of receiver Hello All, I was out on the trap range today shooting my 11-87 Sporting Clays when the action locked up. I couldn't pull the bolt back and I noticed that the barrel had moved forward from the receiver about 1/4". Upon pulling the trigger group out and removing the action bar assembly & bolt, I saw that the mag tube had disconnected itself from the receiver. Not good! It looks as if this part is silver soldered in at the factory before the receiver is blued. My question is can I use a Loctite product or epoxy to resecure the mag tube into the receiver instead of silver solder? Does anyone know of any other product which I can use to put this back together? See ya, Red Dot

October 27, 2004, 06:09 PM	#2
PzB41 Member Join Date: October 27, 2004 Location: South of the Mason/Dixon Line in horse country. Posts: 23	Mag tube repair Hi Red Dot, Sorry to hear about the mag tube coming out at an inopportune time. Hate to say it, but that mag tube is silver-soldered in for a reason. If they could have gotten away with a binary epoxy or something from Devcon at the factory, they would have. Cheaper to glue it in instead of sliver soldering it. Either have a pro in your area who has Remington's blessing silver solder it back in place, or send it back to the factory to be repaired. No other way around it. Pz __________________ "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man" -- Thomas Jefferson Current favorites in the safe: Pre-64 M70 in .300 WinMag, Steyr SSG69, H&K 93A4 and 91, M21, H&K USP (C), Colt 1911A1 & Anaconda, S&W M57. Disabled Veteran (10 Years Active, US Army) NRA Life Member Graduate CST, Denver, CO. Precision Rifle Instructor Professional Gunsmith/Riflemaker Student of Engineering

October 27, 2004, 08:28 PM	#4
PzB41 Member Join Date: October 27, 2004 Location: South of the Mason/Dixon Line in horse country. Posts: 23	Remingtons You're right.. they do braze them in instead of sliver soldering them. Guess my pain meds are making me fuzzy. Still, we agree on the whole "can I just glue it in?" thing. Very bad idea. Thing I dislike the most about Remington shotguns is the ejector and the ejector rivet. They put this crummy stamped thing in there to act as an ejector, and if it breaks, which happens too damn often for my liking, it has to go back to the factory to get replaced. I had a long talk with the Remington Service Shop one afternoon about the problem, the end result being they sent me a bag of rivets and ejectors to play with. Lucky for me I had a couple of junked shotguns laying around to practice on. It ain't easy. No way can a smithy make money replacing those things. I never understood why they didn't just replace the rivet with a dome head screw arrangement and be done with it, as often as the ejector breaks. A drop of red locktite and you're done. But then, Remington likes stamped ejectors and extractors for some reason I've never been able to figure out (unless it's budget-related). Pz __________________ "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man" -- Thomas Jefferson Current favorites in the safe: Pre-64 M70 in .300 WinMag, Steyr SSG69, H&K 93A4 and 91, M21, H&K USP (C), Colt 1911A1 & Anaconda, S&W M57. Disabled Veteran (10 Years Active, US Army) NRA Life Member Graduate CST, Denver, CO. Precision Rifle Instructor Professional Gunsmith/Riflemaker Student of Engineering

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October 27, 2004, 06:51 PM	#3
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	Remington brazes their mag tubes in place with a brass based brazing compound. There is nothing that will secure the tube that will stand up to shooting. This is NOT a job for the average local gunsmith, since there are issues with getting the tube properly positioned, straight, and properly aligned. Before it can be re-brazed, the ejector assembly and the shell releases will have to be removed. Also, there are problems with protecting the receiver's heat treating. Remington will reattach the tube and refinish your receiver. I'd guess that this will be a free repair, since a loose tube is a sure sign of a defective assembly from the get-go.