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Old February 26, 2015, 08:30 PM   #1
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15rd group, 50 yds outdoor range, CCI Mini Mag...1.25"




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Old February 26, 2015, 10:32 PM   #2
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Well there goes an extended family of squirrels.
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Old February 26, 2015, 11:44 PM   #3
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SICK!!!

I'm looking to (eventually) getting a RAR for squirrel season next year. I missed out this year, couldn't get my hunting safety permit in time, but this will give me time to get the permit and get the gun/gear ready!
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Old February 27, 2015, 03:20 AM   #4
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Maybe I'm missing something, but is 3MOA exciting? Is that good for 22lr?
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Old February 27, 2015, 05:49 AM   #5
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Maybe I'm missing something, but is 3MOA exciting? Is that good for 22lr?
It's one MOS (Minute of Squirrel)
I would hope some other loads will do half that
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Old February 27, 2015, 10:00 PM   #6
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If that's good for you, awesome! I was there at one point. Now if I can't hold minute of the bottom of a soda can at 75 yards with my open sights (Savage Mark II) I get disappointed.

So keep working at it.
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Old February 28, 2015, 10:56 AM   #7
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If this is "sub par" at best, what would be a good 15rd group at 50yds?
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Old February 28, 2015, 11:48 AM   #8
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I'd call the group great at 1.25" with CCI Mini Mag ammunition, it's acceptable accuracy for most situations you'll run across with a factory .22 rifle at the range or in the field. If I were shooting some match grade .22LR Eley, Wolf, Lapua or other and I had a 1.25" group at 50 yards I might be disappointed. With .22 LR it's all about the consistency of the ammunition you run, but then you struggle with just finding ammunition any these days so I'd be very happy to have that group.
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Old March 1, 2015, 09:46 AM   #9
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Don't take the comments personally. In the 14 years I've been hanging around various gun forums I have yet to meet someone who didn't routinely shoot 1/4" groups with ANY rifle they owned from a $75 Wards 22 to an issue 303 Enfield. To read these forums you'd think all God's children can shoot .5 MOA on demand with any rifle. I once shot a 1/4" group at 50 yards with a Ruger 10/22 right out of the box with a 4X scope but notice the key word: once. I never did it again. Most guys wouldn't consider 1.25" at 50 to be match accuracy, but you did shoot 15 shots (most are 3 or 5 at most) and you weren't using match grade ammo. I think putting 15 rounds into 1.25" isn't too shabby. Also, it looks like one shot drifted out a bit ruining what was essentially one elongated hole for a group. Some may turn up their noses at that but not I.

I am not familiar with the Ruger "RAR" but do you really need a 14x scope on a 22? Try various ammo (if you can find some) as 22s are notorious for having preferences for one brand over others.
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Old March 1, 2015, 12:31 PM   #10
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I am not familiar with the Ruger "RAR" but do you really need a 14x scope on a 22?
High power scopes work great on 22's

When I bought my 77/22, I didn't know what scope I wanted to get for it, but I had a Leu 6.5 X 20 AO that I didn't have on anything at the time.

I LOVED that set-up for squirrel hunting because I could use it to find squirrels in the trees that I wouldn't have seen at all with a lower powered scope.

When I finally got a scope for the rifle, I settled on a 4 X 12 Leu, but there are times I wish I had gotten another 20 power

The better you can see the target, the more accurate you will be, and I could dial the AO to less than 25 yds for no parallax
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Old March 3, 2015, 06:38 PM   #11
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Old March 3, 2015, 11:34 PM   #12
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And a Harris bipod, too!
My buddy loves those contraptions, while I wouldn't have one of those on any rifle of mine. To each, their own.
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Old March 4, 2015, 07:05 PM   #13
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Getting there...

50 yds, 10rds, CCI Green Label 25/32"

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Old March 4, 2015, 08:35 PM   #14
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If I were shooting some match grade .22LR Eley, Wolf, Lapua or other and I had a 1.25" group at 50 yards I might be disappointed.
Unless your gun has a match chamber, the high dollar ammo isn't more likely to be any more accurate than standard loads.

None of the fancy "match" ammo shoots any better than Win Super X in a couple of my rifles
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Old March 4, 2015, 09:12 PM   #15
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My gun does alright with Wolf MT and as far as I know, it doesn't have a match chamber.
Admittedly, this 5 shot @ 50 yard group was shot in an indoor range so it was a real measure of the ammo's potential and not a test of my wind doping ability. A mere 5 mph crosswind can drift a .22LR close to 3/4 of an inch @ 50 yards.



Same ammo, same rifle at an outdoor range @50 yards.



CCI standard velocity is also very accurate but I can't quite match Wolf MT groups with it, but unlike Wolf, CCI SV can actually be found on sale at my local gun store on occasion.

.22 ammo, it's the Beanie Babies of the 2010's.
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Old March 5, 2015, 09:29 AM   #16
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Old March 5, 2015, 09:45 AM   #17
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Interesting. At 13 yds I wonder how difficult that would be.
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Old March 5, 2015, 11:28 AM   #18
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Interesting. At 13 yds I wonder how difficult that would be.
I dunno. Shooting from the offhand position, that would be quite challenging.
From sandbags, easy.
What position is specified was not stated, I assume from a rest because if it was offhand, I'm sure the poster would have said so.

One of the criteria for a practice range for my shooting is the accommodation of people who want to practice offhand rifle shooting. Ranges that are bench only are great if you want to sight in your rifle but I want to practice shooting.
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Old March 5, 2015, 11:47 AM   #19
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the high dollar ammo isn't more likely to be any more accurate than standard loads.
My stock 10/22 gave 5" groups at 50 yds with Remington big box, and pretty much went in order of price down to 1/2" with Eley Tenex. With a better trigger and barrel I could meet the 1/2" with a Eley Match but not improve with the Tenex, so I guess that's where my shooting gets worse than the gun. An Anschuetz with the same ammo selection went from 3" down to 1/2" with Match. I found ammo the single most decisive factor for 22 accuracy.
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Old March 14, 2015, 05:42 PM   #20
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I have a 14 power a 12 power a 18 power and a 24 power on a few of my rugers !!
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Old March 14, 2015, 06:28 PM   #21
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I'm just getting ready to test my resonance frequency adjuster to see if I can have the tunability of the barrel with the four screws I nstalled in the bipod mount with the screws i can move the barrel left or right and up or down pre loading the barrel to any spec i want or the bullets like more importantly! !! If this works all bullets will vibrate the barrel faster or slower depending on the weight of the bullet and powder charge etc.... i will be able to just have a 0 preload 0 movement I'm thinking if a can find this for each bullet the gun will not have this as a cry large factor in accuracy anymore doing a termendius amount for its diversity of ammo !!!! I will let you know the results when I'm done !!! One method of setting the resonator from bullet brand yo bullet brand is using a inch pound wrench to tell me what the set screws at set at for each manufacturer
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Old March 14, 2015, 06:46 PM   #22
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Old March 18, 2015, 07:44 PM   #23
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I really want to get a 10 round 1 MOA group at 50 yards... (.523") I am getting closer.... (.78"). One "poor" shot away....

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Old March 22, 2015, 10:27 PM   #24
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Well Tahoe dust if my barrel whip resonator inhibitor do sent work I'm taking 4 3/8" bars and bedding the barrel to the stock and fife glassing the full length rods from the volquartsen trigger and bolt group competition level to the end of the barrel then I'm putting 1 inch of long strand rear to front then wrap right to left again front to rear until it weighs 10 pound and barrel harmonics will not be able to budge a thing the action full of competition volquartsen parts with steel housing is bedded to so heavily I will have to destroy a Talo classic V stock to get it out 100 and 19 percent bedded then you will get your 10 rounds at 1 MOA group at 50 yards oh ya congratulations so far !!!! I go to rimfire and ruger forums and to my amazement they group at 500 yards I still have a hard time believing it but with my .920 barrel bedded and mini mags repetition is the key if the gun do sent move and I don't move it I should have it
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Old March 24, 2015, 07:14 PM   #25
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Finally... Magazine fed CCI Green Tag, 50yds, 10 rds = 1 MOA



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