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Old June 27, 2012, 01:57 PM   #1
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I think this is MI v Collie & MI v Yanna

Story - Stun gun possession is a right protected by MI & U.S. constitutions:

http://www.freep.com/article/2012062...text|FRONTPAGE

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The three-judge appeals panel cited a 2008 U.S. Supreme Court decision involving handguns which “guarantee(s) the individual the right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation” to find a state law barring the use of tasers and stun guns by private citizens was unconstitutional.

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http://www.freep.com/assets/freep/pdf/C4191235627.PDF
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Old June 27, 2012, 08:58 PM   #2
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Interesting. Although we tend to think of "arms" as firearms, the 2nd Amendment originally applied to swords, bows and arrows, etc.

It's great that some of the state level appellate courts are finally beginning to see the light!
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Old June 27, 2012, 09:30 PM   #3
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Very nice decision. It not only applied the 2A to tasers and stun guns, it also held the 2A protected open carry in the public. I do wonder if this is to be a published decision.

BTW, a curious point about defendant John Collie (this opinion covered two cases). He was in the process of getting divorced and obtained police assistance to help retrieve insulin and personal items from the home. His wife holds up the stun gun and asks in front of police if that is what he is looking for. Police take the stun gun and charge him with possession. Why didn't they charge her? I'm just sayin'.
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Old June 28, 2012, 04:50 AM   #4
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An electrifying decision with a shocking conclusion! It will energize our movement, and probably prevent miscreants from committing battery...

OK, I'll shut up now...
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Old June 28, 2012, 12:18 PM   #5
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An electrifying decision with a shocking conclusion! It will energize our movement, and probably prevent miscreants from committing battery...
Where's the :Groan: smiley when you really need it?
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