More FTFs with lead than copper?

spacecoast · December 16, 2009, 08:59 AM

Just wondering for those who have been reloading for a long time - does the softer surface of a lead bullet tend to lead to more FTFs in automatic pistols than using a plated or jacketed bullet?

GP100man · December 16, 2009, 10:19 AM

I shoot revolvers . BUTTT

If the lead bullets could cause a FTF it would be after the barrel has leaded so badly the bullet was catchin on it & not goin into full battery???

I think your accuracy would have gone south on ya way before then!!

IME most FTFs are from hi primer, missin or low powder (squib) & on autos wrong or incomplete crimpin.

My Bad ??? I forgot `bout the first concern reloading for pistols FEEDIN!!!!

I`m confused , wait no i`m not , I forgot , what was I talkin about !!!LOL

Yeah there`s alot of acyronyms in the firearm business!!!

snuffy · December 16, 2009, 02:46 PM

Ummmmmmm, wut do ya mean, Failure To Feed, OR Failure To Fire? Using acronyms with the same first letters is confusing!?

spacecoast · December 16, 2009, 02:51 PM

Sorry, speaking of Feeding here. Are lead bullets any harder to coax up the ramp?

FrankenMauser · December 16, 2009, 03:21 PM

No.

Bullet shape and OAL is all that has ever mattered to my pistols.

spacecoast · December 16, 2009, 03:31 PM

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Bullet shape and OAL is all that has ever mattered to my pistols.

Well, given that the average FMJ (in my experience) is more pointed that the average LRN, that might account for some variation in feed success.

Emerson · December 17, 2009, 12:11 AM

Never had a problem with lead or FMJ feeding in my 1911's.

DWARREN123 · December 17, 2009, 01:19 AM

The shape may tend to cause more failures to feed in the 40 S&W. I have had a few FTF in a Sig, XD, and CZ with 180gr lead flat points and 175gr SWC's , never in a Glock.

FrankenMauser · December 17, 2009, 02:32 AM

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Well, given that the average FMJ (in my experience) is more pointed that the average LRN, that might account for some variation in feed success.

Digging around the wonderful internet will net a myriad of lead bullets with a 'more pointed' shape. (For all I know, they could be from the same mould design; but they are still available.)

Your argument, though, comes back to my experience. Bullet shape.....

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If your pistol feeds HPs, SWCs, or other 'non-pointed' designs, it shouldn't be a problem.

Come to think of it; I have never found a bullet that wouldn't feed for me. Some OAL adjustments fixed the only FT-Feed issues I've had. (Which happened to always be HPs; not lead.)

Remember: Lead is a lubricant.

December 16, 2009, 08:59 AM	#1
spacecoast Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2009 Location: Sunshine and Keystone States Posts: 4,461	More FTFs with lead than copper? Just wondering for those who have been reloading for a long time - does the softer surface of a lead bullet tend to lead to more FTFs in automatic pistols than using a plated or jacketed bullet?

December 16, 2009, 10:19 AM	#2
GP100man Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2007 Location: Tabor City , NC. Posts: 1,969	I shoot revolvers . BUTTT If the lead bullets could cause a FTF it would be after the barrel has leaded so badly the bullet was catchin on it & not goin into full battery??? I think your accuracy would have gone south on ya way before then!! IME most FTFs are from hi primer, missin or low powder (squib) & on autos wrong or incomplete crimpin. My Bad ??? I forgot `bout the first concern reloading for pistols FEEDIN!!!! I`m confused , wait no i`m not , I forgot , what was I talkin about !!!LOL Yeah there`s alot of acyronyms in the firearm business!!! __________________ GP100man Last edited by GP100man; December 17, 2009 at 07:18 AM.

December 16, 2009, 02:46 PM	#3
snuffy Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2001 Location: Oshkosh wi. Posts: 3,055	Ummmmmmm, wut do ya mean, Failure To Feed, OR Failure To Fire? Using acronyms with the same first letters is confusing!? __________________ The more people I meet, the more I love my dog They're going to get their butts kicked over there this election. How come people can't spell and use words correctly?

December 16, 2009, 03:21 PM	#5
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	No. Bullet shape and OAL is all that has ever mattered to my pistols. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

December 17, 2009, 12:11 AM	#7
Emerson Member Join Date: May 9, 2009 Posts: 89	Never had a problem with lead or FMJ feeding in my 1911's. __________________ An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it. - Col Jeff Cooper

December 16, 2009, 02:51 PM	#4
spacecoast Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2009 Location: Sunshine and Keystone States Posts: 4,461	Sorry, speaking of Feeding here. Are lead bullets any harder to coax up the ramp?

December 17, 2009, 01:19 AM	#8
DWARREN123 Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2006 Location: BETWEEN TN & KY Posts: 1,758	The shape may tend to cause more failures to feed in the 40 S&W. I have had a few FTF in a Sig, XD, and CZ with 180gr lead flat points and 175gr SWC's , never in a Glock. __________________ Have a nice day!