December 22, 2008, 10:57 PM | #26 |
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With high capacity guns like a Glock, SIG, etc I don't top off. With low capacity guns like my P7 I top off (and have for nearly 17 years). With 1911s I never top off.
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December 22, 2008, 10:57 PM | #27 |
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yes yes yes. My revolver is the only exception I can never find room for that +1
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December 22, 2008, 11:07 PM | #28 |
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How much do those pesky magazine springs cost?
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December 22, 2008, 11:20 PM | #29 |
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Yep, and I have yet to wear out a mag spring (as soon as I do, I'll buy replacements). I shoot at the range weekly, so as soon as a mag show signs of unreliablity, I'll know all about it.
I don't own any double-stacks (used to, but they're too fat to carry concealed) so my carry guns are all single stack, most of them 1911s. |
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Seems like it would take a long time (years) for most modern mags to wear out. I have a glock 17 mag that is over 5 years old and it still does fine even though it has been kept loaded 90% of the time.
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10+1 Full mag and chambered.
7+1 Same condition. 6+1 Ditto 5 Full cylinder |
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Mr. David Armstrong---
22-Mag is correct about the springs, so you may as well accept it. It's a fact of physics. On another note, no springs as bad as you are talking about would even be used in a gun or magazine. It seems to me that you are the one making absurd statements without any backup data. |
December 23, 2008, 02:00 AM | #34 |
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Nope
I do not top off; however, there is almost always a second magazine around.
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December 23, 2008, 03:00 AM | #35 |
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I top off all my auto's +1 their made to be full. Even M-16 mags you just have to get the right GI mag lot.
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I have never personally had any issues with mag springs from keeping loaded. I have had other problems with mags, just not springs (from keeping loaded).
I am sure that there are cases of failure, just never has happened to me - yet. I do have a fair number of mags for each gun, this may make a difference. I do have new springs sitting in the factory packaging for my hi-cap G20 mags. Relatively inexpensive, and if hi-cap mags are ever banned again (possibly with replacement parts for them being banned also?) I am good to go for quite a while. Mags fully loaded +1 when carried or HD gun; when stored in the safe empty. Chain is on my chainsaw bar, blade on the chop saw... tools ready when need.
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In my mind the +1 is the most important round. So Yea.
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December 23, 2008, 08:53 AM | #38 |
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I never top off my mags after chambering. I often carry a 5-shot revolver, so when I carry my 6-shot automatic, I don't worry about 1 more round, especially when I already have 1 more than usual.
The biggest reason I don't top off is so I can find a home for the round when I clear the chamber. |
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+1 here also thou I hope I never need to shoot 15 rounds in an engagement.
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December 23, 2008, 09:32 AM | #41 |
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YEP +1!
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I'm still 100% sure that warped springs can causes problems, but I’m still saying I don't know if fully loaded mags cause those problems, it's just what i've been brought up hearing. I do carry less than the max, but by choice. If I fully loaded all the time and the mags "somehow" stopped working correctly due to the spring, I'd just buy a new one... I'm not counting pennies over here... Simply put, I carry less than maximum capacity...
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Always.
One may not have the presence of mind to chamber a round if they're suddenly startled with an attack and their response is running purely on instinct. Whoops! You've just introduced an unloaded gun into a gun fight. That could end tragically. It's much more sensible to have the gun charged and ready to go.
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+1...unless it's my revolver.
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December 23, 2008, 10:37 AM | #45 |
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For those of you who may have missed the point of this thread:
The issue here isn't whether or not to chamber, but whether its worthwhile to load the extra bullet back into the mag afterwards. |
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Not only do I carry mine chambered AND topped off I stow them in the locker that way too!!! I keep my carry guns loaded, all the time. When I pick one up I want it ready to go.
Other guns that I seldom shoot are stored empty. |
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I have mags that were loaded in the early fifties at West Point, I have tried 5 of those mags, and they all worked fine. The rounds went bang,the mags fed fine and the slides all locked back on cue.
Think about it, when was the last time you heard about car springs failing or sagging? and how many cycles do they go thru in a mile, never mind a car's life. Same with cheap wire springs in a ball point? |
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I carry an XD45 and almost never top it off. 13 rounds with the full size mag are just fine, and 10 with the compact mags are probably still enough. I usually have spare magazines close by anyway, and they are actually usually downloaded by 1 for easier seating.
I like to be able to unload the gun if I need to and have a place to put the round from the chamber. |
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Then again, the only time I have to "load the extra bullet" back in is after cleaning. My firearms are always charged and fully loaded unless they're on the bench, including my HD shotgun.
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