Question Re: Suggested BP loads for .44 cal and 36 cal brass -framed replicas - Page 2

ZVP · September 5, 2011, 01:01 PM

As wear increases and tolerances open-up, fire can get inside many ways.
The jury is still out on wheather a chain fire occurs from the front or the nipples of a revolver but in any case, loose guns are dangerous!
A loose cylinder acn promote cap misfires cause thecaps aren't being hit right.
The plain solution is do not overload a Brasser!
If you have a loose one make it a wallhqanger. BP revolvers are cheap enough as to not endanger yourself or innocent bystanders! Buy yourself a new safe gun.
ZVP

zullo74 · September 5, 2011, 02:49 PM

ZVP,

If the ball is sealed and the nipple is sealed, then a stretched frame that won't allow a cap to be fired is no danger at all.

mykeal · September 5, 2011, 10:36 PM

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fire can get inside many ways

I'm unable to visualize those many ways. Maybe you could provide a list.

So far, all i can come up with is through the nipple due to a loose cap or past the ball in the chamber due to a flaw in the ball or chamber. Are there other ways into a chamber that get loose with wear that I'm not aware of?

arcticap · September 6, 2011, 12:21 AM

Maybe ZVP means to say that excessive end shake may cause a loose fitting cap to fall off a nipple due to the "extra" battering of the cylinder from recoil.
In that one respect he may be right that the odds of a cap falling could be slightly increased without actually clearly stating it that way.
I've been squeezing #11 caps lately so that they fit the nipples better and I can't say that any possible associated increase in the risk bothers me. I don't think that it would increase the risk to bystanders since they wouldn't be in the line of fire if there were a chainfire.
But that's a risk that everyone needs to decide for themselves and is not only related to brassers or their amount of end shake.
While some may argue that using a squeezed cap would represent an increased risk, how well any cap fits any gun is not something that's easy for anyone to quantify.

Lee McNelly · September 7, 2011, 02:14 PM

Because it is damaged

zullo74 · September 7, 2011, 02:55 PM

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SIMPLY

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Because it is damaged

Hawg · September 7, 2011, 03:02 PM

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Because it is damaged

That doesn't even make sense.

September 5, 2011, 01:01 PM	#26
ZVP Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2009 Posts: 1,102	Open gaps As wear increases and tolerances open-up, fire can get inside many ways. The jury is still out on wheather a chain fire occurs from the front or the nipples of a revolver but in any case, loose guns are dangerous! A loose cylinder acn promote cap misfires cause thecaps aren't being hit right. The plain solution is do not overload a Brasser! If you have a loose one make it a wallhqanger. BP revolvers are cheap enough as to not endanger yourself or innocent bystanders! Buy yourself a new safe gun. ZVP

September 6, 2011, 12:21 AM	#29
arcticap Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2005 Location: Central Connecticut Posts: 3,166	Maybe ZVP means to say that excessive end shake may cause a loose fitting cap to fall off a nipple due to the "extra" battering of the cylinder from recoil. In that one respect he may be right that the odds of a cap falling could be slightly increased without actually clearly stating it that way. I've been squeezing #11 caps lately so that they fit the nipples better and I can't say that any possible associated increase in the risk bothers me. I don't think that it would increase the risk to bystanders since they wouldn't be in the line of fire if there were a chainfire. But that's a risk that everyone needs to decide for themselves and is not only related to brassers or their amount of end shake. While some may argue that using a squeezed cap would represent an increased risk, how well any cap fits any gun is not something that's easy for anyone to quantify. Last edited by arcticap; September 6, 2011 at 12:33 AM.

September 7, 2011, 02:14 PM	#30
Lee McNelly Junior member Join Date: June 9, 2011 Posts: 325	SIMPLY Because it is damaged

September 5, 2011, 02:49 PM	#27
zullo74 Junior member Join Date: August 8, 2009 Posts: 374	ZVP, If the ball is sealed and the nipple is sealed, then a stretched frame that won't allow a cap to be fired is no danger at all.