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August 31, 2008, 05:42 PM | #51 |
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For home defense - A shotgun
Are you planning on walking the streets during a riot or natural disaster ? If so, yea go with any rifle, pistol, or gun you can get your hands on.
However, for home defense, I would go with a pistol or 12 Ga.shotgun with 00buck. The Bishop |
August 31, 2008, 06:18 PM | #52 |
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It must load on Sunday and shoot all week. Be reliable enough to go through that whole week without a hickup. Shoots strait and hits hard as far as I can reliably hit. Light and short. And afford lots of practice (cause skill is number one in my book.)
Right now my two Bushie ARs fill the bill. Just spent this morining sighting in one (BUIS was on, but scope not) and it shoot wonderfully. The other one, with Ashly rear sight, was already dead on at 200 yards and has my 'no touchie' stamp on it, meaning it works right and leave it alone! Sure there are others that will do the same. A good AK, good FAL (I'd like to get a DSA para model myself), SOCOM M1A, and others but the AR is what I have and it does quite fine. See I don't split hairs and worry over charts and graphs that give one a .002 percent better this or better that. My Bushies are fine, just like alot of other good guns out there.
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September 1, 2008, 04:41 PM | #55 |
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to me, weighin in at around 290, shooting the ar is about like going at it with a 1022.
id LOVE to do some formal training, but with my size id be picked as the target!!!! |
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September 1, 2008, 05:54 PM | #57 |
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A battle with Coyote ?
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September 1, 2008, 11:14 PM | #58 |
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Hmmmm
Well, my current "battle rifle" is my Beretta CX4 Storm...in 9mm.
The way I look at it presently (and anyone is welcome to try and change my mind with some good advice) I am going primarily for defense and even a 9mm Carbine will convince people to keep their heads down. Should the worst happen (whatever the "worst" might be) I don't see myself sitting still for too long unless there is no other choice. My goal would be to get into a rural, less populated area (not hard in northern/western Maine) and finding a place for me and mine to camp out. Since I travel a lot, I have one pistol/rifle for transit to home and another for moving from home to wherever. To get home I have my Beretta Cougar 8040 and a Marlin 30-30 Lever action. Once I get home (after a quick trip to a secure location that is) I have my Glock 22 and some gear for wearing it as well as several Magazines to get to a safe place. As mentioned, my CX4 will be joining me as well. WAP
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September 2, 2008, 03:35 AM | #59 |
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The AR-15 (M4 variant) is a great weapon. Ammo is plentiful, rate of fire is good, ease of use, alot of accessories and spare parts, and is an easy rifle to maintain. The only drawbacks in my book to the round, is it certain conditions, and at distance, it can tend to be a bit under powered. Not a bad rifle to have in capable hands by any means.
I like the AK for the same reasons, plus it has more punch, and you can treat it like an ex-wife and it will still shoot. In a serious situation where weapon maintenance might not happen for extended periods of time, you can't go wrong with the AK. You can drop that baby in the swamp, drain the barrel and come out fighting. It can take real word abuses that would cause other rifles to malfunction. As far as inside 50 yards or closer, if I had the choice I would definitely grab a "combat" shotgun. Nothing is more effective, or easier to use, especially in conditions where careful, scoped aiming may not be an option. The short barreled shotty is probably my first grab in home invasion situation. There are semi-auto "drum" fed models, short barreled, pistol gripped, and will hold a box of alternating slug, 00, or whatever you want to feed it. Hard to go wrong there. |
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It seems that my worry over penetration may be unwarranted. Thanks for all the help guys. I'm gonna get the AR in 308 anyway but it won't replace my 223's as my go to unless its followups are not to far off.
I appreciate the discussion. |
September 2, 2008, 09:11 AM | #61 |
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I think this one has run its course.
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