It's Arrived.

long rider · March 21, 2008, 06:29 PM

Ok my 36 cal 58 remmy has just arrived.
Gee you wanna see the size of the box
it came in , you fit a canon in side

.
Anyway first inspection,the gun is almost
black in color and so is the grips, not seen a
gun that dark before, buts thats ok .
In a mo i will take it apart and give it a good
clean and oil up ( oh i will try not to wear out
the screws

) up till now the only thing i need
to do is file the trigger it has a sharp edge.
This is cool , you get a 59 page manual from
f.lli pietta this gives you all you need to know
on all there bp muzzleloading revolvers and
carbines , strip downs and loading.
I will be makeing a trip to the range on sunday
so i will see how she performs.
Any tips would be cool. bin long time sine i
had a new gun.

Hawg · March 21, 2008, 06:37 PM

Make sure you either use an over ball lube or lubed wads under the ball. Oh yeah, aim low.

Raider2000 · March 21, 2008, 07:04 PM

Now with both of my Remington repros I had to aim high till I filled the front sight down enough to hit point of aim but that is also being .44 caliber.

Hawg · March 21, 2008, 07:20 PM

Mine was made in 2000. Maybe they're putting taller sights on them now. My 60 Colt shoots high too and it was made in 07.

long rider · March 21, 2008, 07:50 PM

Ok did a strip down , then filed the sharp ege of the
trigger , all back to gether now.
One thing i did notice the grips are bigger than my
44 cal, i was going to change them out.
Pietta recommeneds 9-12 grns for 36

what do you guys think.

Hawg · March 21, 2008, 08:04 PM

I don't have a .36 but over at MLF they say 18-22.

long rider · March 21, 2008, 08:13 PM

OK all is left to do is take it out for a test run

.
Makes you feel like your 10 years old and santa just
bin. Any way thanks for listening to my ramble on.

Raider2000 · March 21, 2008, 10:19 PM

Colts allways shot high, my 25 year old Pietta 1860 was dead on at 55 yards & quite a few friends that have Colts say the same thing "they shoot high" but both of my 1858's shot low with Ball, maybe they were orriginally set up to shoot conical?

Now my normal every day load for either is:
.457 144gr. Ball
30gr. FFFG Goex
#11 Caps.

As far as I remember between 15-22gr. of FFFG was the norm for a .36 caliber loading.

scrat · March 21, 2008, 11:16 PM

i can attest to that this is at 20 yards out with my WALKER. I forgot of course and was aiming dead on center. It shot high, So then i just started to do some good groupings in there. Then when i started to aim lower it was hitting dead on. Here are my shootings from today.

long rider · March 22, 2008, 04:57 PM

You are right raider2000 it shoots better with 22 grns,
i tried 12 at first then went to 22 grns much better .
And your right about they shoot low

wow i will
have to do some filing big time.

Raider2000 · March 22, 2008, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by long rider

You are right raider2000 it shoots better with 22 grns,
i tried 12 at first then went to 22 grns much better .
And your right about they shoot low wow i will
have to do some filing big time.

Yup sometimes my experience pays off "now if only I can remember where I put that Wachamacalit"

Don't file a lot off, just a few strokes at a time & bench shoot her, this way you will fine tune her to where you want her to hit at & not you.
Trust me you'll shoot quite a bit till you get that ball to hit where you want it to but it'll be well worth it.

long rider · March 22, 2008, 08:04 PM

Thanks for the info, and i did notice it shoots to
the right, not sure what to do about that?.
Tomorrow i will make a loader for my 36 cal,
my 44 loader just fits but at a pince, the 44
lo0ader is a 1851 ball ram and i made it into
a portable ball loader, saves on the guns loading
lever.

Gbro · March 22, 2008, 08:37 PM

Year back one of my shooting buddy's had a ,36 and being we were living in the barracks (Ft. Riley) we had to make do. We found OOO buckshot(.36dia) would work. We had a hoot with it.

Gbro · March 23, 2008, 12:14 PM

Long rider,

Can you post a picture of your "Loader",
i am interested in making a loader for my .44, and see they can be bought for about $60.
Thanks,

long rider · March 23, 2008, 01:47 PM

Hey gbro.

I have just finshed moddifying my loader 10 mins ago
now i can load both my 44 and 36

.in the field
OK the main part is the RAM, the ram is a old 51 ball
lever from a old pistol i had, so that is the main part
i started with, the rest is a walk in the park.
Ok these are the materials you will need.
A 12" piece of 2+6 thats is for the base.
2 pieces of 2+4 at 5 1/2 ins long by 3/1/4 wide.
2 1/1/2 elbow brackets.
1 1/1/4" round wooden dowel for the handle
i made mine about 6" long.
Put the two pieces of 2/4s side by side, then take a round
2" hole saw in a drill and drill a hole, ( this is a perfet fit for
the cylinder), then stack them on top of each other with cut
outs faceing the same way. Get yourself small piece of plastic
thats for the cylinder to sit on when you are loading the balls.
Cut the plastic to the shape of the 2" round hole saw cut out
or the cylinder will start to dig into the wood and go of balance.
You will have to do some dry fits to check that its right for your
cylinder. Take the elbow brackets they will sit on top of the 2"
cutouts ( dry fit ) take the 51 loading lever or some alternate
take a small nut and bolt ( you may have to drill a diferant hole
to accppet the nut and bolt. I drilled a hole in the 1/1/4" dowell,
i took of the latch and slid the lever into the drilled hole in the
dowell that will be your hand press, make sure that you use some
small washers inbetween the bracketts and the loading lever so
it moves up and down freely. Ok do you see the picture so far.
Really all theres left to do is put it all together with some screws,
make surer you keep your cylinder at hand for refrence.
You can make your owen alterations to what you think best that
suits you. total price 2 bucks.
I will try to get some pics out but can not say when, the wife
bust the camra, but its really stright forward, + you can pm me
i will galdliy give you more info.

Gbro · March 23, 2008, 04:57 PM

I think i have that, and i have some thick poly that is just screaming "USE ME"
Thank you

long rider · March 23, 2008, 05:22 PM

Hey pard, let me know how you get on, and i will have
to get a cheap camra from wally world so i can show
you my rig. Hey its simple but it works, it saves on the
guns loading lever. When you get the hang of it, you
can spin the cylinder with your thumb and load at the
same time,i can load six balls in seconds. I load the cylinder
with powder then place a ball over each cylinder mouth
press with the parm of my hand then its to the press
bing bang done deal nothing to it.

.
What are you going to use as a loading lever?,
to me thats the main part

.the rest is cake,
let me know on your prowgress thanks.

March 21, 2008, 07:50 PM	#5
long rider Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 669	Ok did a strip down , then filed the sharp ege of the trigger , all back to gether now. One thing i did notice the grips are bigger than my 44 cal, i was going to change them out. Pietta recommeneds 9-12 grns for 36 what do you guys think. __________________ Sod Buster Tried To Pull On Willson.

March 21, 2008, 08:13 PM	#7
long rider Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 669	OK all is left to do is take it out for a test run. Makes you feel like your 10 years old and santa just bin. Any way thanks for listening to my ramble on. __________________ Sod Buster Tried To Pull On Willson.

March 22, 2008, 04:57 PM	#10
long rider Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 669	You are right raider2000 it shoots better with 22 grns, i tried 12 at first then went to 22 grns much better . And your right about they shoot low wow i will have to do some filing big time. __________________ Sod Buster Tried To Pull On Willson.

March 22, 2008, 08:04 PM	#12
long rider Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 669	Thanks for the info, and i did notice it shoots to the right, not sure what to do about that?. Tomorrow i will make a loader for my 36 cal, my 44 loader just fits but at a pince, the 44 lo0ader is a 1851 ball ram and i made it into a portable ball loader, saves on the guns loading lever. __________________ Sod Buster Tried To Pull On Willson.

March 22, 2008, 08:37 PM	#13
Gbro Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,084	Year back one of my shooting buddy's had a ,36 and being we were living in the barracks (Ft. Riley) we had to make do. We found OOO buckshot(.36dia) would work. We had a hoot with it. __________________ Gbro CGVS For the message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, But to us who are being saved, It Is The Power Of God. 1Corinthians 1-18

March 21, 2008, 06:29 PM	#1
long rider Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 669	It's Arrived. Ok my 36 cal 58 remmy has just arrived. Gee you wanna see the size of the box it came in , you fit a canon in side. Anyway first inspection,the gun is almost black in color and so is the grips, not seen a gun that dark before, buts thats ok . In a mo i will take it apart and give it a good clean and oil up ( oh i will try not to wear out the screws ) up till now the only thing i need to do is file the trigger it has a sharp edge. This is cool , you get a 59 page manual from f.lli pietta this gives you all you need to know on all there bp muzzleloading revolvers and carbines , strip downs and loading. I will be makeing a trip to the range on sunday so i will see how she performs. Any tips would be cool. bin long time sine i had a new gun. __________________ Sod Buster Tried To Pull On Willson.

March 21, 2008, 06:37 PM	#2
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	Make sure you either use an over ball lube or lubed wads under the ball. Oh yeah, aim low.

March 21, 2008, 07:04 PM	#3
Raider2000 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 719	Now with both of my Remington repros I had to aim high till I filled the front sight down enough to hit point of aim but that is also being .44 caliber.

March 21, 2008, 07:20 PM	#4
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	Mine was made in 2000. Maybe they're putting taller sights on them now. My 60 Colt shoots high too and it was made in 07.

March 21, 2008, 08:04 PM	#6
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	I don't have a .36 but over at MLF they say 18-22.

March 21, 2008, 10:19 PM	#8
Raider2000 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 719	Colts allways shot high, my 25 year old Pietta 1860 was dead on at 55 yards & quite a few friends that have Colts say the same thing "they shoot high" but both of my 1858's shot low with Ball, maybe they were orriginally set up to shoot conical? Now my normal every day load for either is: .457 144gr. Ball 30gr. FFFG Goex #11 Caps. As far as I remember between 15-22gr. of FFFG was the norm for a .36 caliber loading.

March 21, 2008, 11:16 PM	#9
scrat Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2008 Posts: 214	i can attest to that this is at 20 yards out with my WALKER. I forgot of course and was aiming dead on center. It shot high, So then i just started to do some good groupings in there. Then when i started to aim lower it was hitting dead on. Here are my shootings from today.

March 23, 2008, 12:14 PM	#14
Gbro Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,084	Long rider, Can you post a picture of your "Loader", i am interested in making a loader for my .44, and see they can be bought for about $60. Thanks, __________________ Gbro CGVS For the message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, But to us who are being saved, It Is The Power Of God. 1Corinthians 1-18

March 23, 2008, 01:47 PM	#15
long rider Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 669	Hey gbro. I have just finshed moddifying my loader 10 mins ago now i can load both my 44 and 36.in the field OK the main part is the RAM, the ram is a old 51 ball lever from a old pistol i had, so that is the main part i started with, the rest is a walk in the park. Ok these are the materials you will need. A 12" piece of 2+6 thats is for the base. 2 pieces of 2+4 at 5 1/2 ins long by 3/1/4 wide. 2 1/1/2 elbow brackets. 1 1/1/4" round wooden dowel for the handle i made mine about 6" long. Put the two pieces of 2/4s side by side, then take a round 2" hole saw in a drill and drill a hole, ( this is a perfet fit for the cylinder), then stack them on top of each other with cut outs faceing the same way. Get yourself small piece of plastic thats for the cylinder to sit on when you are loading the balls. Cut the plastic to the shape of the 2" round hole saw cut out or the cylinder will start to dig into the wood and go of balance. You will have to do some dry fits to check that its right for your cylinder. Take the elbow brackets they will sit on top of the 2" cutouts ( dry fit ) take the 51 loading lever or some alternate take a small nut and bolt ( you may have to drill a diferant hole to accppet the nut and bolt. I drilled a hole in the 1/1/4" dowell, i took of the latch and slid the lever into the drilled hole in the dowell that will be your hand press, make sure that you use some small washers inbetween the bracketts and the loading lever so it moves up and down freely. Ok do you see the picture so far. Really all theres left to do is put it all together with some screws, make surer you keep your cylinder at hand for refrence. You can make your owen alterations to what you think best that suits you. total price 2 bucks. I will try to get some pics out but can not say when, the wife bust the camra, but its really stright forward, + you can pm me i will galdliy give you more info. __________________ Sod Buster Tried To Pull On Willson.

March 23, 2008, 04:57 PM	#16
Gbro Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,084	I think i have that, and i have some thick poly that is just screaming "USE ME" Thank you __________________ Gbro CGVS For the message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, But to us who are being saved, It Is The Power Of God. 1Corinthians 1-18

March 23, 2008, 05:22 PM	#17
long rider Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 669	Hey pard, let me know how you get on, and i will have to get a cheap camra from wally world so i can show you my rig. Hey its simple but it works, it saves on the guns loading lever. When you get the hang of it, you can spin the cylinder with your thumb and load at the same time,i can load six balls in seconds. I load the cylinder with powder then place a ball over each cylinder mouth press with the parm of my hand then its to the press bing bang done deal nothing to it.. What are you going to use as a loading lever?, to me thats the main part.the rest is cake, let me know on your prowgress thanks. __________________ Sod Buster Tried To Pull On Willson.