22 TCM bolt rifle -vrs- 22 Hornet bolt rifle???

Magnum Wheel Man · May 26, 2015, 01:55 PM

I have a custom 22 Hornet, Ruger 77 22 Hornet converted to K Hornet with a 1 in 9" twist barrel... love the gun & it's versatility... I don't like how hard ammo or in reality brass can be to locate sometimes, & how fragile 22 Hornet brass is...

I keep getting drawn to the 22 TCM handguns though I've yet to purchase, & noted they offer a bolt action rifle in that caliber that is much more my speed those bolt rifles are also quite a good value... from what I can tell, both cartridges are about the same ballistically with similar bullets... I'd suspect the sharper shoulder of the TCM is inherintly more accurate, & the brass ( made from shortened & formed 223 cases ) should be much more durable, & likely better handle top end loads, with longer case life...

curious if anyone has shot both of these with any regularity & wants to offer some insight???

mxsailor803 · June 11, 2015, 06:07 AM

I'm in the same boat as you Magnum. The TCM should just excell out of rifle. Hope someone can share some info.

Magnum Wheel Man · June 11, 2015, 06:58 AM

no one else must be intertested ???

603Country · June 11, 2015, 07:54 AM

Personally, before I went to all that trouble making cases, I'd just buy a nice rifle in 221 Fireball.

Magnum Wheel Man · June 11, 2015, 07:58 AM

loaded ammo, factory new, & once fired cases are available... in 22 TCM

BTW... I do have a nice rifle in 17 Fireball, & a Contender barrel in 221 Fireball... but that TCM rifle is still interesting

Mobuck · June 11, 2015, 08:01 AM

"Personally, before I went to all that trouble making cases, I'd just buy a nice rifle in 221 Fireball."

Excellent answer.
The TCM(like the 5.7x28) is an attempt to fit a high velocity 22 bullet in a handgun platform. There are so many better options for rifle use that limiting a rifle to such minuscule cartridges is nothing more than a stunt.

Magnum Wheel Man · June 11, 2015, 08:08 AM

I have much bigger cases in 22 caliber... however the quirky streak in me also looks at efficency ( that's why I have a custom 25 ACP Ruger Blackhawk, & am building a 25 ACP Contender carbine barrel )...

the TCM looks to do anything the Hornet can do, ( I have several Hornets & custom variations of that cartridge ) with a much sturdier case, & a sharper shoulder angle, headspaceing on the shoulder should offer increased case life & be inherently more accurate than the long slow tapered shoulder of the Hornet base cartridge... & even though the K hornet improves a lot, you still deal with thin cases of the parent Hornet case...

BTW... I have a 5.7 X 28 custom Contender barrel as well, & it's much better to load in a fixed breach gun... ( I had an FN 5 Seven handgun, that I got rid of during the last shortage ) & "fixing" cases fired in that gun to load again is a pain, & has a high failure rate...

I also agree, if cases weren't available, that I already have plenty of cartridges I have to make brass for, for my Contenders... I'm not really looking for another... but having factory & once fired cases available makes it more interesting for me...

Big Shrek · June 14, 2015, 06:25 AM

Heck, I'm lusting after their 1911a1 9mm/.22TCM pistol...
ballistics just from the pistol are impressive, would love to see it in a nice semi-auto carbine!!

May 26, 2015, 01:55 PM	#1
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	22 TCM bolt rifle -vrs- 22 Hornet bolt rifle??? I have a custom 22 Hornet, Ruger 77 22 Hornet converted to K Hornet with a 1 in 9" twist barrel... love the gun & it's versatility... I don't like how hard ammo or in reality brass can be to locate sometimes, & how fragile 22 Hornet brass is... I keep getting drawn to the 22 TCM handguns though I've yet to purchase, & noted they offer a bolt action rifle in that caliber that is much more my speed those bolt rifles are also quite a good value... from what I can tell, both cartridges are about the same ballistically with similar bullets... I'd suspect the sharper shoulder of the TCM is inherintly more accurate, & the brass ( made from shortened & formed 223 cases ) should be much more durable, & likely better handle top end loads, with longer case life... curious if anyone has shot both of these with any regularity & wants to offer some insight??? __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

June 11, 2015, 06:58 AM	#3
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	thanks for the bump... no one else must be intertested ??? __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

June 11, 2015, 07:58 AM	#5
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	loaded ammo, factory new, & once fired cases are available... in 22 TCM BTW... I do have a nice rifle in 17 Fireball, & a Contender barrel in 221 Fireball... but that TCM rifle is still interesting __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

June 11, 2015, 08:08 AM	#7
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	I have much bigger cases in 22 caliber... however the quirky streak in me also looks at efficency ( that's why I have a custom 25 ACP Ruger Blackhawk, & am building a 25 ACP Contender carbine barrel )... the TCM looks to do anything the Hornet can do, ( I have several Hornets & custom variations of that cartridge ) with a much sturdier case, & a sharper shoulder angle, headspaceing on the shoulder should offer increased case life & be inherently more accurate than the long slow tapered shoulder of the Hornet base cartridge... & even though the K hornet improves a lot, you still deal with thin cases of the parent Hornet case... BTW... I have a 5.7 X 28 custom Contender barrel as well, & it's much better to load in a fixed breach gun... ( I had an FN 5 Seven handgun, that I got rid of during the last shortage ) & "fixing" cases fired in that gun to load again is a pain, & has a high failure rate... I also agree, if cases weren't available, that I already have plenty of cartridges I have to make brass for, for my Contenders... I'm not really looking for another... but having factory & once fired cases available makes it more interesting for me... __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust... Last edited by Magnum Wheel Man; June 11, 2015 at 08:14 AM.

June 14, 2015, 06:25 AM	#8
Big Shrek Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: NorthWest Florida Posts: 1,358	Heck, I'm lusting after their 1911a1 9mm/.22TCM pistol... ballistics just from the pistol are impressive, would love to see it in a nice semi-auto carbine!! __________________ Marlin Specialist Calico Specialist A gun should be a tool in the hands of a deadly weapon, not a deadly weapon in the hands of a tool.

June 11, 2015, 06:07 AM	#2
mxsailor803 Senior Member Join Date: February 8, 2010 Location: SC Posts: 1,344	I'm in the same boat as you Magnum. The TCM should just excell out of rifle. Hope someone can share some info.

June 11, 2015, 07:54 AM	#4
603Country Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2011 Location: Thornton, Texas Posts: 3,998	Personally, before I went to all that trouble making cases, I'd just buy a nice rifle in 221 Fireball.

June 11, 2015, 08:01 AM	#6
Mobuck Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Posts: 6,846	"Personally, before I went to all that trouble making cases, I'd just buy a nice rifle in 221 Fireball." Excellent answer. The TCM(like the 5.7x28) is an attempt to fit a high velocity 22 bullet in a handgun platform. There are so many better options for rifle use that limiting a rifle to such minuscule cartridges is nothing more than a stunt.

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