Yote trouble

Ntshade · March 11, 2011, 12:57 AM

NorthEast Texas seems to be over run with yotes and hogs.
So if anyone wants to come this way and shoot a few, they are quiet welcome.
I have 3 horses I have to keep the yotes off of lately. So far I have not gotten a one. I'm the crazy lady who runs outside and yells at them in her pj's. When it gets bad I just move my car around. This summer I intend to send a few to the maker.

Daryl · March 11, 2011, 06:51 AM

It isn't likely that a coyote will bother a full sized horse much. They don't around here, and we have a bunch of coyotes in SE Az.

More likely they're mousing in your pasture.

That all said, feel free to shoot all you want. In the long run it won't lower the number of coyotes you have, but it might help keep them younger.

The fact is, when coyote numbers are low in an area (so they eat good), they have bigger litters of pups. When the numbers are high (so they have to work harder for a meal), they have smaller litters.

The best way to lower the numbers for any particular year is to hire an ADC guy with dogs to take out dens in the denning season. By taking out the den, including pups, you'll lower the numbers until the next denning season the following spring. If you don't get the dens the next year though, you'll be right back where you started.

Daryl

Ntshade · March 11, 2011, 07:10 PM

Trouble is I have a colt out there too. And these horses were given to me and not in the best of shape.

I have noticed the doe have no fawns this year yet, and usually do by now.

Hunter Customs · March 11, 2011, 08:39 PM

I sure wish I was closer, I would be glad to help you get rid of some them coyotes.
Best Regards
Bob Hunter
www.huntercustoms.com

Double Naught Spy · March 11, 2011, 09:11 PM

Give this thread a few days and I believe you will have some volunteers.

How may acres do you have? How many horses? Do you allow some form of baiting? Can the horses be put up or moved to a different pasture to be safe?

Hog Buster · March 11, 2011, 10:41 PM

Get yourself a couple of jackasses. Everyone with cattle around here keeps a couple. They keep the coyotes off the calves. I don’t know why it works, but it does.

With no cows to worry about this jackass just baits them and blows them away at every opportunity.

Stick_man · March 13, 2011, 11:10 PM

Another option would be to get llamas. I have seen an increasing number of sheep herders using llamas for protection against coyotes. The llamas tend to "adopt" the sheep as their own and are quite powerful and effective against dogs. I would imagine they would do the same with horses.

That being said, finances may be a limiting factor for you as well as many others (that would like to help). Maybe you could keep a loaded varmint rifle close by just in case you catch a glimpse of ole Wiley himself.

I'd love to help out, but transportation is a bit of an issue for me.

grubbylabs · March 13, 2011, 11:30 PM

Llamas and Horses do not usually get along, the horses hate em most of the time.
However a mule will do you a lot of good. A mule will kill a dog pretty quick so if you have pet dog you like make sure they can't get in with the mule. I have seen a mule bait a dog first hand. We were able to call the dog back before he was turned into a muddy spot in the pasture but it was still close.
This mule also killed calves when given a chance, he would pick them up and swing them into his pen where he would stomp them into the ground then throw them back into the pasture. So they can be kinda nasty, but it wont take long for the yotes to learn not to come into the pasture. I have never herd of a mule hurting a horse so I would not worry to much about that. They really are smart critter.

Wish I was close I would love to spend some ammo.

rickyrick · March 15, 2011, 12:18 PM

Donkeys know everything that happens at a farm LOL... I watch the donkeys and can tell when the pigs are near .....they tend to avoid areas that have a group of pigs as the pigs are bullying calves and donkeys and they generally keep looking in the direction of the coyotes. Coyote will usually out themselves anyways. Donkeys will raise a ruckus when something gets within there comfort zone. Don't know about mules though.

markj · March 15, 2011, 03:36 PM

I see lots of Lamas here, folks keep them with their horses ans small pen type animals as they will run off a yote fast. The horses dont seem to mind.

We had a big stud horse, he kept the pasture free of any varmints.

Capt. Charlie · March 16, 2011, 12:33 PM

Llamas are definitely a deterrent to coyotes, and where horses are concerned, after an "adjustment" period, it's pretty much a non-issue.

That "adjustment" period however, can be very interesting. I remember all too well the first time our horses saw our llamas. I was riding a big buckskin in a clinic when that long neck popped up over a hill. A mellow horseman's clinic suddenly became a PRCA saddle bronc competition

. You would've thought the devil himself showed up

.

After several weeks though, horses and llamas arrived at an uneasy truce. They pretty much ignore each other now, but they don't "socialize" either.

As to coyotes bothering horses, that's pretty much a non-issue as well. I've watched yotes walk within thirty feet of grazing horses, and the horses rarely even lift their heads.

A foal may be at some risk, but any mare worth her salt will make mincemeat out of any coyote that even licks his chops at her foal.

hogdogs · March 16, 2011, 01:05 PM

Donkeys are used here to protect cattle here too...

We turned out the hog dogs one night just a bit closer to a pasture than we noticed... Dogs took a track thru there and we here the braying then the cries of a dog who was in the wrong place at the wrong time... The dog was not his same nimble self with his sore ribs!

brent

Tombstonejim · March 16, 2011, 01:23 PM

I am on the side that no yote is gonna attack a horse unless maybe its almost dead laying on the ground. They come to my stable all the time and drink water out of the horse trough. They don't hurt anything and they eat all the rats they can catch.

hornetguy · March 16, 2011, 01:24 PM

I would be interested in coming over that way and trying to help thin em out.
I'll send you a PM...

hornetguy · March 19, 2011, 12:42 PM

bump... Ntshade... you there? No answer on my PM to you...?

jeepster11 · March 19, 2011, 05:33 PM

closer you wouldnt have to worry about yotes but thats a far drive wish i could help. hope all is well with you.

"JJ" · March 28, 2011, 08:20 AM

Yeah, I am just over a hour away myself. I would be interested to find out some details. If you would like some help with the coyotes send me a private message! I would like to know you property size & if possible I would like to look at a satalite image of your place. If the coyotes have no place close to bed down, they are just passing through. Hunting as they go! If that is the case it would be by chance that we timmed it right to catch one in the pasture. A night hunt would likely be more productive in this case. Or like someone mentioned earlier, keep a rifle close & pop them everytime you see them. Even if you don't hit it, it will start to avoid the area it always hears that loud noise! Like I said, if interested send me a message. Good luck!

March 11, 2011, 12:57 AM	#1
Ntshade Junior Member Join Date: March 8, 2011 Location: Marshall, TX Posts: 3	Yote trouble NorthEast Texas seems to be over run with yotes and hogs. So if anyone wants to come this way and shoot a few, they are quiet welcome. I have 3 horses I have to keep the yotes off of lately. So far I have not gotten a one. I'm the crazy lady who runs outside and yells at them in her pj's. When it gets bad I just move my car around. This summer I intend to send a few to the maker.

March 11, 2011, 09:11 PM	#5
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	Give this thread a few days and I believe you will have some volunteers. How may acres do you have? How many horses? Do you allow some form of baiting? Can the horses be put up or moved to a different pasture to be safe? __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

March 11, 2011, 10:41 PM	#6
Hog Buster Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2009 Location: Pointe Coupee, Louisana Posts: 772	Get yourself a couple of jackasses. Everyone with cattle around here keeps a couple. They keep the coyotes off the calves. I don’t know why it works, but it does. With no cows to worry about this jackass just baits them and blows them away at every opportunity. __________________ Those who beat their guns into plows, will plow for those who don't.-Thomas Jefferson

March 13, 2011, 11:30 PM	#8
grubbylabs Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2009 Location: Hansen Idaho Posts: 1,465	Llamas and Horses do not usually get along, the horses hate em most of the time. However a mule will do you a lot of good. A mule will kill a dog pretty quick so if you have pet dog you like make sure they can't get in with the mule. I have seen a mule bait a dog first hand. We were able to call the dog back before he was turned into a muddy spot in the pasture but it was still close. This mule also killed calves when given a chance, he would pick them up and swing them into his pen where he would stomp them into the ground then throw them back into the pasture. So they can be kinda nasty, but it wont take long for the yotes to learn not to come into the pasture. I have never herd of a mule hurting a horse so I would not worry to much about that. They really are smart critter. Wish I was close I would love to spend some ammo. __________________ * (Swinging club) Whack! whack! whack! * Nope, the old nag's still dead . (Capt Charlie)

March 15, 2011, 12:18 PM	#9
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	Donkeys know everything that happens at a farm LOL... I watch the donkeys and can tell when the pigs are near .....they tend to avoid areas that have a group of pigs as the pigs are bullying calves and donkeys and they generally keep looking in the direction of the coyotes. Coyote will usually out themselves anyways. Donkeys will raise a ruckus when something gets within there comfort zone. Don't know about mules though. __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

March 11, 2011, 06:51 AM	#2
Daryl Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2008 Posts: 2,350	It isn't likely that a coyote will bother a full sized horse much. They don't around here, and we have a bunch of coyotes in SE Az. More likely they're mousing in your pasture. That all said, feel free to shoot all you want. In the long run it won't lower the number of coyotes you have, but it might help keep them younger. The fact is, when coyote numbers are low in an area (so they eat good), they have bigger litters of pups. When the numbers are high (so they have to work harder for a meal), they have smaller litters. The best way to lower the numbers for any particular year is to hire an ADC guy with dogs to take out dens in the denning season. By taking out the den, including pups, you'll lower the numbers until the next denning season the following spring. If you don't get the dens the next year though, you'll be right back where you started. Daryl

March 11, 2011, 07:10 PM	#3
Ntshade Junior Member Join Date: March 8, 2011 Location: Marshall, TX Posts: 3	Trouble is I have a colt out there too. And these horses were given to me and not in the best of shape. I have noticed the doe have no fawns this year yet, and usually do by now.

March 11, 2011, 08:39 PM	#4
Hunter Customs Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2005 Location: Osborn, Missouri Posts: 2,697	I sure wish I was closer, I would be glad to help you get rid of some them coyotes. Best Regards Bob Hunter www.huntercustoms.com

March 13, 2011, 11:10 PM	#7
Stick_man Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2008 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 241	Another option would be to get llamas. I have seen an increasing number of sheep herders using llamas for protection against coyotes. The llamas tend to "adopt" the sheep as their own and are quite powerful and effective against dogs. I would imagine they would do the same with horses. That being said, finances may be a limiting factor for you as well as many others (that would like to help). Maybe you could keep a loaded varmint rifle close by just in case you catch a glimpse of ole Wiley himself. I'd love to help out, but transportation is a bit of an issue for me.

March 15, 2011, 03:36 PM	#10
markj Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2005 Location: Crescent Iowa Posts: 2,971	I see lots of Lamas here, folks keep them with their horses ans small pen type animals as they will run off a yote fast. The horses dont seem to mind. We had a big stud horse, he kept the pasture free of any varmints.

March 16, 2011, 12:33 PM	#11
Capt. Charlie Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 24, 2005 Location: Steubenville, OH Posts: 4,446	Llamas are definitely a deterrent to coyotes, and where horses are concerned, after an "adjustment" period, it's pretty much a non-issue. That "adjustment" period however, can be very interesting. I remember all too well the first time our horses saw our llamas. I was riding a big buckskin in a clinic when that long neck popped up over a hill. A mellow horseman's clinic suddenly became a PRCA saddle bronc competition . You would've thought the devil himself showed up . After several weeks though, horses and llamas arrived at an uneasy truce. They pretty much ignore each other now, but they don't "socialize" either. As to coyotes bothering horses, that's pretty much a non-issue as well. I've watched yotes walk within thirty feet of grazing horses, and the horses rarely even lift their heads. A foal may be at some risk, but any mare worth her salt will make mincemeat out of any coyote that even licks his chops at her foal. __________________ TFL Members are ambassadors to the world for firearm owners. What kind of ambassador does *your* post make *you?* I train in earnest, to do the things that I pray in earnest, I'll never have to do. --Capt. Charlie

March 16, 2011, 01:05 PM	#12
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Donkeys are used here to protect cattle here too... We turned out the hog dogs one night just a bit closer to a pasture than we noticed... Dogs took a track thru there and we here the braying then the cries of a dog who was in the wrong place at the wrong time... The dog was not his same nimble self with his sore ribs! brent

March 16, 2011, 01:23 PM	#13
Tombstonejim Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2007 Location: Tombstone Az Posts: 202	I am on the side that no yote is gonna attack a horse unless maybe its almost dead laying on the ground. They come to my stable all the time and drink water out of the horse trough. They don't hurt anything and they eat all the rats they can catch.

March 16, 2011, 01:24 PM	#14
hornetguy Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2011 Location: on the north side of DFW Posts: 970	I would be interested in coming over that way and trying to help thin em out. I'll send you a PM...

March 19, 2011, 12:42 PM	#15
hornetguy Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2011 Location: on the north side of DFW Posts: 970	bump... Ntshade... you there? No answer on my PM to you...?

March 19, 2011, 05:33 PM	#16
jeepster11 Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2008 Location: fairborn ohio Posts: 175	if i was closer you wouldnt have to worry about yotes but thats a far drive wish i could help. hope all is well with you.

March 28, 2011, 08:20 AM	#17
"JJ" Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2010 Location: NE Texas Posts: 576	Yeah, I am just over a hour away myself. I would be interested to find out some details. If you would like some help with the coyotes send me a private message! I would like to know you property size & if possible I would like to look at a satalite image of your place. If the coyotes have no place close to bed down, they are just passing through. Hunting as they go! If that is the case it would be by chance that we timmed it right to catch one in the pasture. A night hunt would likely be more productive in this case. Or like someone mentioned earlier, keep a rifle close & pop them everytime you see them. Even if you don't hit it, it will start to avoid the area it always hears that loud noise! Like I said, if interested send me a message. Good luck! __________________ ~ "JJ"