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Old April 2, 2008, 11:25 PM   #76
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PBP

I opted to getting a folding stock for my current shotty instead of getting a new one

Here is a pic of the stock I will be adding.

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Old April 2, 2008, 11:54 PM   #77
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I opted to getting a folding stock for my current shotty instead of getting a new one
Those are nice. I almost went that route myself. Now that you have your own you will not have to borrow that little red headed dude's.
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Old April 3, 2008, 12:18 AM   #78
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if the price was right then yes. I just bought this (not the actual one in the photo) yesterday for $199 at a pawn shop. Mossberg 500 tactical.

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Old April 3, 2008, 01:16 AM   #79
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I like the pistol grip in combination with a butt stock (similar to an AR setup) for ergonomics purposes. I've never messed with any stockless pistol grips....however, having a pistol grip is great when it comes to trying to buy a short barrel shotgun (like a breaching gun) since it is actually considered a pistol.
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Old April 3, 2008, 01:58 AM   #80
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Ummm,.... no-it's not.
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Old April 3, 2008, 06:02 AM   #81
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Yes with the butt stock. Not pg only(cant butt stroke)
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Old April 3, 2008, 09:48 AM   #82
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I voted Yes, but I would only put on a pistol grip if it included a side or top folding stock.
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Old April 3, 2008, 09:58 AM   #83
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Ion371

Muzzle checks work just as good as buttstrokes and keep the muzzle oriented towards the person(s) you want hurt.

I used the muzzle check a few times and it works fairly well.....
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Old April 3, 2008, 10:55 AM   #84
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Greetings all.
I put a Pachmayer Vindicator pistol grip set on my Mossberg 500 12G with a 18" barrel. I love it! My main reason for installing it is for better maneuverability inside my home and keeping it in smaller places.
I read a little of the first page and the guy who says a pistol grip only takes off a few inches is WRONG, try 8"-12".
Alot of people complain about the recoil. While it's definately potent, I don't think they know the proper method for shooting. You have to pull foward with your pump hand. If you let your trigger hand do all the work, yeah it's gonna hurt! I'm a tall, Gumbi(super slim) figured man and I control the recoil quite well. Once you figure out the right way to hold it, controllability and follow-up shots are no problem.
On the accuracy issue. I'm very accurate with my 18" cylinder bore with buckshots(full power or low-recoil) and full power slugs. I can hit a man sized target at 30+ feet with the gun at my waist. If you need better accuracy, pull it up to your face and use the sight. I've seen and read about people almost knocking themselves out trying that, but I have no problem doing it.
Lastly, if recoil is still a problem, use some low-recoil ammunition. It comes in buckshot and slugs. Although stick to full power ammo if your using a semi-auto or it might not cycle all the way.
I hope this helps someone considering a pistol grip, try it out! They don't cost that much. Take a look at the Pachmayer vindicator or the Hogue tamer.
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Old April 3, 2008, 08:37 PM   #85
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normally I have my Knoxx stock on



but thanks to this thread I figured I would try the pistol grip I bought a long time ago and still havent used

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Old April 3, 2008, 10:28 PM   #86
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I picked up a pistol grip for my 835 Ulti-Mag. It is fun to play with at the range, but I find that the slide release is hard to operate:



I will keep the standard stock on it most of the time.....
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Old April 21, 2008, 12:04 AM   #87
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My wife is 5' and 100 lbs, Pistol grip not a problem.

The key is to manage the recoil.

My wife's home defense gun is a 20" Mossberg 500 with a Pachmyr pistol grip. I taught her to hold it just under her right breast (snug to her lower rib cage, but off to the side a bit), with her hand/wrist/forearm all in a straight line. She knows to let her body and joints (shoulder and elbow) absorb the recoil. She's a tiny little thing but she'll shoot full power slugs and 00 buck with no problem, 2 3/4 and 3". She'll empty the 7 or 8 rounds with a smile. Follow-up shots are fast. And she can hit what she's aiming at, too. 15-25 yards, no problem. The longest distance in our house is about 6 or 7 yards.

She takes more of a pounding with my stock buttstock on my home defense gun.

I wouldn't want her mad at me, that's for sure.
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Old April 21, 2008, 01:28 AM   #88
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Pachmayr Vindicatior *Best pistol grip Ever!*

I bought this "Pachmayr Vindicator" pistol grip for my 18" Remington 870. The one on top

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c..._1997_74237982

I love it. It's got the nice "over hand" revolver style grip rather than the "semi auto" style you see on most shotguns (which I think makes it easier to point and better for absorbing recoil). It's very easy to point and shoot with. I could hit my own hand thrown clays all day with it. I believe it to be more useful *For me* for home defense, because you have no long stock to get hung up on your shirt or the wall or anything. And incase you need to be moving quickly though your house, or just taking a quick "Point" shot rather than a full "raise to your shoulder and aim" shot, it works much better. And with practice, it would be just as effective, but with the added bonus of being quicker, and less cumbersome.

At the same time. I still prefer shooting my shotgun with the regular stock on. And I usually just leave it on. My Pachmayr grip does alot of sitting around. But I'd never get rid of it. If anything, I'd just go buy another 870 so I can have both grip options at any one time
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Old April 21, 2008, 05:31 PM   #89
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Another satisfied vindicator owner here. I put the pistol grip on my maverick 88 for travel with the family in places where I cant (legally) carry a revolver. Once travel season is over the full stock goes back on!
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Old April 21, 2008, 06:53 PM   #90
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Well I am kind of new to this entire gun thing. My first shotgun was in fact a pistol grip - Mossberg Maverick 88. It is mainly for HD.

It should do the job, no!? yay?
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Old April 21, 2008, 07:28 PM   #91
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If the pistol grip was included in a going-through-a-divorce-must-sell-everything-for-dirt-cheap package deal, then sure I'll buy one. I won't use it though. The regular stock is so much more forgiving while clearing trees from the hip.



And Playboy- I hope you have long monkey arms for that forward pistol grip. It's akward.
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Old April 21, 2008, 10:23 PM   #92
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I would and currently own a double pistol grip 870. Solely for home defense and it's a blast to shoot. I take it out about once a month with my in laws and a few friends and it gets the most play time out of anything else there. Although I think the Saiga 20 will be getting the most play this time around...Going this saturday Saiga 20, 870 double pistol grip, Stoeger sxs 12 gauge, Marlin 1895XLR 45-70, CZ 452 Lux, XD40, Maverick 88 w/overfold stock, Mod 60 .22...Just to name a few that'll be attending
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Old April 22, 2008, 12:21 AM   #93
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still havn't made it to the range with my pistol grip but I saw this and the recoil doesn't look that bad

http://www.knoxx.com/products/BreachersGrip.php
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Old April 22, 2008, 11:17 AM   #94
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I wouldn't. My HD shotgun has a speed-feed stock, which, in addition to holding a few extra rounds, it gives just a little bit extra leverage in case I need to use it as a club.
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Old April 23, 2008, 03:04 AM   #95
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Old April 24, 2008, 09:47 AM   #96
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After the install on my Mossberg 500 I have decided that it is a mixed bag. It makes that weapon almost useless, with the one exception being defense. But when handled correctly it would do fine in that role, and be much handier to have and deploy. The above post on holding the weapon tight to your body is pretty close to what I came up with when I started messing around with the idea. Grip the pistol grip in the strong hand, place the wrist and meaty part of the palm tight against your strong side peck, with the elbow pulled tight to the side of the rib cage. This will put the line of sight 6-8 inches lower that if used in a conventional stock manner. Short range, house clearing distance, hits are very easy to obtain, and recoil is not as bad as it feels in the “hip fire” method. This also keeps much less gun from protruding to far in front of you, which could lead to a gun grab in defense situation.
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Old April 24, 2008, 10:25 AM   #97
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Seems to me that one could fire a conventionally-stocked shotgun "from the hip" or with the stock tucked under the armpit and essentially have the same thing as a pistol grip with none of the disadvantages. In the rare circumstance, that is, that one needed that badly to cut down on overall length. Just seems pistol-grip only is giving up too much for what it gives. Just MO but I have no argument with those who like them.
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Old April 24, 2008, 10:44 AM   #98
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No, I totally agree. My above post is simply my experimentation. I prefer a stock. Like I said it renders the weapon almost useless. I just picked up a $15 pistol grip, simply to give it a try, and discovered it was not near as unpractical as some have said. It does limit your use with the arm. It can no longer be effectively used for an impromptu quail gun, or varmint disposer, like my Mossberg has done it in the past, since I store it behind the seat in my pickup.
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Old April 24, 2008, 09:12 PM   #99
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ding ding ding ding!....

Laz gets it. You can always tuck the butt under your arm to reduce the weapons length, but you still have the stock for a successful HIT- which is the point.
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Old April 24, 2008, 10:12 PM   #100
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ding ding ding ding!...
A full stock can not be concealed very well under a long jacket or manuvered in as tight of a space. Or in states like MI where these shotguns are pistols by state law they can be kept in the car, for the carry permit does not allow long guns to be carried on said permits.

That said I can hit out to 25 yards pretty well with the two some of my buddies have. I even fired some 3" magnum 15 pellet OO buck with nary a problem......
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