pair of SS remis OR 3rd mod dragoons?

Johnywinslow · February 9, 2010, 05:04 PM

I own a brass frame 58 remington, and a 51 navy .44 (4 5/8") sherriff. both are pitas. that said I prefer the remington as my hands are a little to big for the colt. But I like to shoot ALOT. usualy a few times a week. various weapons but i realy like the cap and ball shooting. so this tax return im treating myself to a pair of guns and all the fixins. My first thought was SS remis but after reading and looking around Im finding myself want a pair of big ass dragoons. the walker is a little to long at 9 inches, I like the size of the dragoons to fit my bigger hands. well now I could use some advise. are the SS remis worth the diferance in price from standard blue steel? or is it just paying for looks. if so Id prefer to nickle plate a blued pair. second,I have never held a dragoon and I am "assuming" it has a larger overall grip. also can the open top dragoon hold up to 1000 rds of recreational shooting. I know i like the remingtons they are accurate and sturdy, But the hand cannon dragoons are more my taste,but are they durable as the remingtons? any input??

either way clay pigons are gonna die!!!!

Deadguy · February 9, 2010, 05:23 PM

I have an Uberti 2nd model Dragoon. Yes, the handle is bigger than the Colts and the Remingtons. Is it durable? Well, I've used it for several seasons of Cowboy Action Shooting competition, and after hundreds, if not thousands, of loadings of 40 grains BP pushing a 200 grain bullet it is still working fine, and is not falling apart.

madcratebuilder · February 10, 2010, 08:38 AM

DRAGOONS!!!!!!!!!!!

A pair of Italian Dragoons, or a 2nd or 3rd gen Colt. IF you can find a good price you well not find a better revolver.
The 3rd gens are less money and if you can find one that's been fired some it's very affordable. Get something different like a fluted model.

Johnywinslow · February 10, 2010, 02:01 PM

yes I was thinking the same thing. I have wanted dragoons for the longest time. I am having a problem finding holsters for them. any recomendations? someone on another site mentiond the open top holsters sold at cabelas anyone tried this? I feel like 350.00 each for new uberti revolvers is a fair price sense I have come down from considering a pair of rugers. but that is more of an investment. I want guns to shoot. and eventualy upgrade with krist converters. Also I like the 2nd mod squar trigger guard is it a problem on the knuckles like some say? is there anything else that makes the 3rd mod. different?

LeMat1856 · February 14, 2010, 01:58 AM

according to taylor's site, the 3rd is slightly heavier (4 lb 14 oz)... the nice part is they have both the original bp and conversion cylinders (http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/products/bpDragoons.tpl) but no holsters.

Smokin .50 · February 19, 2010, 03:06 PM

I have a Walker on the right hip and a 3rd Model Dragoon on the left, just to balance me out, LOL! Walker gets used most of the time, and I win the competitions most of the time. Not boasting, just factual.

The big Dragoons are some of the most accurate pistols on the firing line at our club!

I LOVE mine, and I don't need the conversion cylinders. The Walker takes a 52 grain rifle charge, a wonder-wad, and a .454 Hornady ball. Makes nice round holes through the targets it goes so fast!

Don't worry about the guns holding-up, as the Walker been in constant use for years!

Dave

flatheadsal · February 19, 2010, 04:12 PM

nothin' like a pair of Remmies with conv cyls, flathead

Fingers McGee · February 19, 2010, 07:56 PM

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nothin' like a pair of Remmies with conv cyls, flathead

Beautiful set!!!!!!

FM

sltm1 · February 19, 2010, 09:36 PM

Answer on Remmies, SS vs Steel. I've owned both in Remmies, and for some reason the SS doesn't bind up after a couple of cylinders from bp residue like the blued model. Anyone have any insite as to why? Better production method's, less porosity in SS metal etc, etc. ???!

arcticap · February 20, 2010, 12:41 AM

It may partly be due to the fact that the metal is simply more highly polished which gives it a smoother and more slippery surface.

February 9, 2010, 05:04 PM	#1
Johnywinslow Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2007 Posts: 131	pair of SS remis OR 3rd mod dragoons? I own a brass frame 58 remington, and a 51 navy .44 (4 5/8") sherriff. both are pitas. that said I prefer the remington as my hands are a little to big for the colt. But I like to shoot ALOT. usualy a few times a week. various weapons but i realy like the cap and ball shooting. so this tax return im treating myself to a pair of guns and all the fixins. My first thought was SS remis but after reading and looking around Im finding myself want a pair of big ass dragoons. the walker is a little to long at 9 inches, I like the size of the dragoons to fit my bigger hands. well now I could use some advise. are the SS remis worth the diferance in price from standard blue steel? or is it just paying for looks. if so Id prefer to nickle plate a blued pair. second,I have never held a dragoon and I am "assuming" it has a larger overall grip. also can the open top dragoon hold up to 1000 rds of recreational shooting. I know i like the remingtons they are accurate and sturdy, But the hand cannon dragoons are more my taste,but are they durable as the remingtons? any input?? either way clay pigons are gonna die!!!!

February 10, 2010, 02:01 PM	#4
Johnywinslow Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2007 Posts: 131	sweet pics. yes I was thinking the same thing. I have wanted dragoons for the longest time. I am having a problem finding holsters for them. any recomendations? someone on another site mentiond the open top holsters sold at cabelas anyone tried this? I feel like 350.00 each for new uberti revolvers is a fair price sense I have come down from considering a pair of rugers. but that is more of an investment. I want guns to shoot. and eventualy upgrade with krist converters. Also I like the 2nd mod squar trigger guard is it a problem on the knuckles like some say? is there anything else that makes the 3rd mod. different? Last edited by Johnywinslow; February 10, 2010 at 02:07 PM.

February 14, 2010, 01:58 AM	#5
LeMat1856 Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 19	according to taylor's site, the 3rd is slightly heavier (4 lb 14 oz)... the nice part is they have both the original bp and conversion cylinders (http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/products/bpDragoons.tpl) but no holsters. __________________ Second Amendment: Use It or Lose It...

February 19, 2010, 03:06 PM	#6
Smokin .50 Junior Member Join Date: January 27, 2010 Location: Central New Jersey Posts: 14	Blast 'em to pieces with the big Colts! I have a Walker on the right hip and a 3rd Model Dragoon on the left, just to balance me out, LOL! Walker gets used most of the time, and I win the competitions most of the time. Not boasting, just factual. The big Dragoons are some of the most accurate pistols on the firing line at our club! I LOVE mine, and I don't need the conversion cylinders. The Walker takes a 52 grain rifle charge, a wonder-wad, and a .454 Hornady ball. Makes nice round holes through the targets it goes so fast! Don't worry about the guns holding-up, as the Walker been in constant use for years! Dave

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February 9, 2010, 05:23 PM	#2
Deadguy Member Join Date: April 17, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 93	I have an Uberti 2nd model Dragoon. Yes, the handle is bigger than the Colts and the Remingtons. Is it durable? Well, I've used it for several seasons of Cowboy Action Shooting competition, and after hundreds, if not thousands, of loadings of 40 grains BP pushing a 200 grain bullet it is still working fine, and is not falling apart.

February 10, 2010, 08:38 AM	#3
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 4,923	DRAGOONS!!!!!!!!!!! A pair of Italian Dragoons, or a 2nd or 3rd gen Colt. IF you can find a good price you well not find a better revolver. The 3rd gens are less money and if you can find one that's been fired some it's very affordable. Get something different like a fluted model.

February 19, 2010, 04:12 PM	#7
flatheadsal Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Posts: 180	nothin' like a pair of Remmies with conv cyls, flathead

February 19, 2010, 09:36 PM	#9
sltm1 Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2009 Location: Idaho Posts: 353	Answer on Remmies, SS vs Steel. I've owned both in Remmies, and for some reason the SS doesn't bind up after a couple of cylinders from bp residue like the blued model. Anyone have any insite as to why? Better production method's, less porosity in SS metal etc, etc. ???!

February 20, 2010, 12:41 AM	#10
arcticap Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2005 Location: Central Connecticut Posts: 3,166	It may partly be due to the fact that the metal is simply more highly polished which gives it a smoother and more slippery surface.