Hazmat Fee

praetorian97 · June 23, 2011, 02:27 PM

I have never ordered from an online site such as Powder Valley and Im trying to crunch some numbers here to see how much I need to order to make it worthwhile.

Do I understand it correctly.... You pay $25 for primers and another $25 for powder because they can not ship together?

What quantities do you guys order in 45acp and 223 to make it worth your while?

Brian Pfleuger · June 23, 2011, 02:31 PM

No, you pay $25 for up to 75 pounds of hazmat. (I think it's 75 anyway).

Compared to local prices, 1000 primers and one, sometimes 2, pounds of powder more than covers the hazmat for me.

Marco Califo · June 23, 2011, 02:43 PM

This is from Midsouths website:
"Frequently Asked Questions
Information about orders Gunpowder & primers

All orders containing gunpowder, primers, or percussion caps will charged a $25.00 hazardous materials charge per shipping box with these items. If shipped by air, then primers, percussion caps, and loaded ammunition will be charged $35.00 per box. Gunpowder cannot be shipped by air. Powder and primers can be packed together on ground shipments for one hazardous charge provided the total weight of the order (including packaging) remains below 70 lbs." That is their policy. Others may not let you combine. You really need to decide what you want, and then call them. There is no obligation to buy on the phone.

Your other question about order quantities to be worthwhile: You need to price the same items locally at sporting goods store and gun clubs. I have found that I need to order several thousand primers and several pounds of powder, at a time, to break-even. So, I watch for "on-sale" primer prices locally. or pay too much for one pound of Varget at the gun club.

Jim Watson · June 23, 2011, 02:44 PM

Geez, guys, look it up. From the Powder Valley home page about 3/4 of the way down at:
http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/

WE CAN COMBINE UP TO 48 LBS. OF POWDER AND PRIMERS UNDER ONE HAZMAT TO SAVE YOU MONEY.

oneounceload · June 23, 2011, 03:15 PM

Last I saw, that most folks will put at least 2-8# jugs of powder and 25,000 primers (typically) in one box

Shootest · June 23, 2011, 05:19 PM

Some suppliers don’t actually stock both powder and primers so the have to charge 2 HAZMAT fees because they will ship from different locations.

June 23, 2011, 02:27 PM	#1
praetorian97 Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 2011 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 455	Hazmat Fee I have never ordered from an online site such as Powder Valley and Im trying to crunch some numbers here to see how much I need to order to make it worthwhile. Do I understand it correctly.... You pay $25 for primers and another $25 for powder because they can not ship together? What quantities do you guys order in 45acp and 223 to make it worth your while?

June 23, 2011, 02:43 PM	#3
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,596	Call PV and ask them This is from Midsouths website: "Frequently Asked Questions Information about orders Gunpowder & primers All orders containing gunpowder, primers, or percussion caps will charged a $25.00 hazardous materials charge per shipping box with these items. If shipped by air, then primers, percussion caps, and loaded ammunition will be charged $35.00 per box. Gunpowder cannot be shipped by air. Powder and primers can be packed together on ground shipments for one hazardous charge provided the total weight of the order (including packaging) remains below 70 lbs." That is their policy. Others may not let you combine. You really need to decide what you want, and then call them. There is no obligation to buy on the phone. Your other question about order quantities to be worthwhile: You need to price the same items locally at sporting goods store and gun clubs. I have found that I need to order several thousand primers and several pounds of powder, at a time, to break-even. So, I watch for "on-sale" primer prices locally. or pay too much for one pound of Varget at the gun club. __________________ ............

June 23, 2011, 05:19 PM	#6
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June 23, 2011, 02:31 PM	#2
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	No, you pay $25 for up to 75 pounds of hazmat. (I think it's 75 anyway). Compared to local prices, 1000 primers and one, sometimes 2, pounds of powder more than covers the hazmat for me.

June 23, 2011, 02:44 PM	#4
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,528	Geez, guys, look it up. From the Powder Valley home page about 3/4 of the way down at: http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/ WE CAN COMBINE UP TO 48 LBS. OF POWDER AND PRIMERS UNDER ONE HAZMAT TO SAVE YOU MONEY.

June 23, 2011, 03:15 PM	#5
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Last I saw, that most folks will put at least 2-8# jugs of powder and 25,000 primers (typically) in one box