41.colt

R.O · August 31, 2010, 09:27 PM

I have a problem in finding 41 colt ammo for my single action's, the question is ,can I make 41 colt ammo from another casing, .....

thanks

**Mike Irwin** · September 1, 2010, 09:17 AM

Generally the answer is no. In years past the only way to make .41 Colt brass was to braze a piece of copper tubing to a .38 Special or .357 Mag. case and go from there.

Unsatisfactory to say the least.

These days, though, with the advent of Cowboy Action Shooting, several companies are making .41 Colt brass, including Starline.

Noz · September 1, 2010, 09:33 AM

Is not the 41 Colt a rim fire?

tatso7 · September 1, 2010, 09:55 AM

Buffaloarms carries them in their website. Pretty expensive though at $75/50 for Blackpowder and $78/50 for smokeless.

Fingers McGee · September 1, 2010, 10:43 AM

.41 Colt brass from Starline,

41 COLT (Small Pistol primer) 1.121"-1.127" O.A.L.
41 Long Colt DA case, also known as the .410 Extra Long Colt, .41 L.D.A., .41 Long Colt, and .41 Colt Double Action. Suitable for use in most .41 Colt revolvers including the Colt Thunderer, New Army, New Navy, Army Special, Single Action Army, and the Bisley. Use #32 RCBS shellholder. Hollow Base bullets that expand into the rifling are generally the best choice for projectiles. These can be found at Rapine Bullet Mould (215) 679-5413.

Pack: 250 (+$133.10)500 (+$237.45)1000 (+$448.20)

http://www.starlinebrass.com/index.php?cPath=1

In searching ammo distributors - to include Cabelas, you can find Ten-X or Ultramax .41 Colt ammo running from $71 to $108 a box

**Mike Irwin** · September 1, 2010, 10:53 AM

"Is not the 41 Colt a rim fire?"

No.

There are actually two .41 rimfire cartridges, the .41 Short, which was chambered in the Remington Double Deuce derringer, the National Arms single shot (later purchased by Colt and sold under their name) and the Colt Cloverleaf.

I believe that the .41 Long rimfire was a Colt innovation.

The two centerfire cartridges that more or less matched these were the .41 Short Colt and the .41 Long Colt. These both were developed and first brought to market by Colt.

Invariably, though, if someone asks about a .41 Colt cartridge, they mean one of the centerfires, and almost always it's the .41 Long Colt.

R.O · September 1, 2010, 11:22 AM

thanks, that is expensive ammo, I have this one bullit someone gave to me ,I think it's an oldie

Hardcase · September 1, 2010, 11:53 AM

Egads, R.O., that revolver looks almost too purty to shoot!

I like Fingers' idea of loading your own.

Noz · September 1, 2010, 01:43 PM

Thanks Mike. I had always associated the antique 41s with the rimfires. Never pursued it far enough to find the centerfires.
Were the center fires originally heeled bullet cartridges?

Scorch · September 1, 2010, 01:49 PM

Quote:

I have this one bullit someone gave to me ,I think it's an oldie

Hmmmm.
Drawn brass case.
Copper-plated lead bullet.
Hmmmm.
Nope, not very old.

Cartridges Of The World will answer any questions you may have about old cartridges and chamberings. I recommend everyone get one.

**Mike Irwin** · September 1, 2010, 02:10 PM

Western was the last manufacturer of the .41 Long Colt (I think), and they ceased production in 1939-1940 as the nation ramped up for WW II production.

"Were the center fires originally heeled bullet cartridges?"

Yes. Both the .41 Short and Long Colt cartridges originated in the early to mid 1870s.

R.O · September 1, 2010, 02:33 PM

Hi hardcase,these guns belong to my "collection" guns and I don't have the intention to use them but it's always nice to have some ammo matching the gun

madcratebuilder · September 2, 2010, 06:55 AM

Goodness, those are beautiful revolvers RO. How about a pic of the whole revolver? That top one has some unique engraving.

R.O · September 2, 2010, 01:26 PM

the 41 colt is engraved by David Wade Harris, makes is own tools, engraving style like bledsoe and Agee,the blue one is a 1899 colt with ivory grips

August 31, 2010, 09:27 PM	#1
R.O Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2010 Posts: 153	41.colt I have a problem in finding 41 colt ammo for my single action's, the question is ,can I make 41 colt ammo from another casing, ..... thanks

September 1, 2010, 09:17 AM	#2
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Generally the answer is no. In years past the only way to make .41 Colt brass was to braze a piece of copper tubing to a .38 Special or .357 Mag. case and go from there. Unsatisfactory to say the least. These days, though, with the advent of Cowboy Action Shooting, several companies are making .41 Colt brass, including Starline. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 1, 2010, 10:43 AM	#5
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	.41 Colt brass from Starline, 41 COLT (Small Pistol primer) 1.121"-1.127" O.A.L. 41 Long Colt DA case, also known as the .410 Extra Long Colt, .41 L.D.A., .41 Long Colt, and .41 Colt Double Action. Suitable for use in most .41 Colt revolvers including the Colt Thunderer, New Army, New Navy, Army Special, Single Action Army, and the Bisley. Use #32 RCBS shellholder. Hollow Base bullets that expand into the rifling are generally the best choice for projectiles. These can be found at Rapine Bullet Mould (215) 679-5413. Pack: 250 (+$133.10)500 (+$237.45)1000 (+$448.20) http://www.starlinebrass.com/index.php?cPath=1 In searching ammo distributors - to include Cabelas, you can find Ten-X or Ultramax .41 Colt ammo running from $71 to $108 a box __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce Last edited by Fingers McGee; September 1, 2010 at 10:59 AM.

September 1, 2010, 10:53 AM	#6
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	"Is not the 41 Colt a rim fire?" No. There are actually two .41 rimfire cartridges, the .41 Short, which was chambered in the Remington Double Deuce derringer, the National Arms single shot (later purchased by Colt and sold under their name) and the Colt Cloverleaf. I believe that the .41 Long rimfire was a Colt innovation. The two centerfire cartridges that more or less matched these were the .41 Short Colt and the .41 Long Colt. These both were developed and first brought to market by Colt. Invariably, though, if someone asks about a .41 Colt cartridge, they mean one of the centerfires, and almost always it's the .41 Long Colt. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 1, 2010, 11:53 AM	#8
Hardcase Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: Sunny Southern Idaho Posts: 1,909	Egads, R.O., that revolver looks almost too purty to shoot! I like Fingers' idea of loading your own. __________________ Well we don't rent pigs and I figure it's better to say it right out front because a man that does like to rent pigs is... he's hard to stop - Gus McCrae

September 1, 2010, 09:33 AM	#3
Noz Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2009 Posts: 643	Is not the 41 Colt a rim fire?

September 1, 2010, 09:55 AM	#4
tatso7 Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2006 Location: southwest Posts: 107	Buffaloarms carries them in their website. Pretty expensive though at $75/50 for Blackpowder and $78/50 for smokeless.

September 1, 2010, 01:43 PM	#9
Noz Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2009 Posts: 643	Thanks Mike. I had always associated the antique 41s with the rimfires. Never pursued it far enough to find the centerfires. Were the center fires originally heeled bullet cartridges?

September 1, 2010, 02:10 PM	#11
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Western was the last manufacturer of the .41 Long Colt (I think), and they ceased production in 1939-1940 as the nation ramped up for WW II production. "Were the center fires originally heeled bullet cartridges?" Yes. Both the .41 Short and Long Colt cartridges originated in the early to mid 1870s. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 1, 2010, 02:33 PM	#12
R.O Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2010 Posts: 153	Hi hardcase,these guns belong to my "collection" guns and I don't have the intention to use them but it's always nice to have some ammo matching the gun

September 2, 2010, 06:55 AM	#13
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 4,923	Goodness, those are beautiful revolvers RO. How about a pic of the whole revolver? That top one has some unique engraving.

September 2, 2010, 01:26 PM	#14
R.O Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2010 Posts: 153	the 41 colt is engraved by David Wade Harris, makes is own tools, engraving style like bledsoe and Agee,the blue one is a 1899 colt with ivory grips