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December 3, 2012, 01:02 PM | #51 | |
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December 3, 2012, 01:29 PM | #52 |
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I don't like the idea of the muzzle of my gun that close to my face. Held as described the gun is still blocking parts of my field of view that I'd rather not have blocked. What advantage is there over low-ready or Sul (both of which I'm well practiced in""" Excellent points Frank,,,I really do not mind the muzzle being that close to my face,,,however you are correct looking almost straight downward it does block some field of view as does low ready while Sul does not, advantages maybe not any,,,I find snapping my wrist downwards from high ready a sliver faster than extending my arms from Sul or bringing the gun up from low ready....Looking at it from an attack from the side the elbows are easier to use from low ready or high ready than from Sul,,,although the weak hand and elbow and arm from any of those positions can be used by disengaging the weak hand from the gun, from behind if grabbed I see a disadvantage to Sul if the attacker clasps his arms around you and his hands on the gun, probably easier to disengage from low ready by pushing your arms downward or from high ready by pushing your arms up but I think low ready wins in this one as the attackers hands could now jam your gun into your face from high ready while keeping it pinned on your chest from Sul....I have not done any force on force or martial arts training to verify this however....
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Low ready is what I was taught and am used to. The only time my gun comes anywhere close to my face is doing a combat draw in close quarters. In that case I would most likely be shooting with my elbows tight and my gun in two hands just in front of my solar plexus. I don't like doing that, especially when I am shooting 125 gr mag loads from my .357. It's hard on a 3 yard target and I would have to think it would be hard on a boogerman but my oh my do I hate that muzzle blast. I was out earlier this afternoon doing that very drill only on 15 yard targets. It's a lot more fun when I use 38 spcl ammo.
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December 3, 2012, 07:30 PM | #54 |
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I would probably try to use sul, forget all about everything, and revert to low ready...
Old Grump, is your sig supposed to say "...mean to govern well..."?
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December 3, 2012, 08:13 PM | #55 | |
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December 4, 2012, 07:55 AM | #56 |
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I just wanted to pay tribute to the guys and gals who teach firearms classes, civilian, law enforcement and military, and should have done it in my original post.
They work with some of the most dangerous animals on the face of the earth,,,men and women,,,utilizing some of the most dangerous weapons ever invented,,,firearms,,,and have to put up with guys like me who question everything! They teach firearm safety,,,God Bless them for that!!! And how to protect yourself and loved ones with a firearm,,,God Bless them for that also!!! Those Men and Women who Teach have my Complete Appreciation and Respect.
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As a plain ole joe who has been carrying since the 70's , I will always opt for holding a AR by the magwell and getting small behind the rifle as I drive it forward. I will always use the miami vice "Crocket" low ready. I will reholster when I am sure that I am done and the whole time, my head on a swivel.
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They were pretty disparaging about it. I was looking for a picture, here's an old thread about it: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108205 Good article on training here, with their comments on the "Sabrina" positions: http://www.thegunzone.com/training.html Quote:
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December 12, 2012, 10:00 AM | #59 |
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The object of Low Ready (or any of the depressed carry positions) is just what it says- to provide a relatively safe muzzle orientation while keeping the pistol in hand. My suggestion would be that if you have Low Ready burned into your subconscious, don't screw it up by trying to over-write the hard drive for every fad that comes along.
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