Looking for your Suggested load for 9mm Lugar 124 remington Golden sabers

virginia scout · March 22, 2005, 07:44 PM

Suggested load for 9mm Lugar 124 remington Golden sabers

I am looking for you suggestions for a non +P load, but still up there in velocity for a 9mm lugar with a 124 grain Remington Golden Saber.

Thanks in advance for the information.

kimbernut · March 25, 2005, 09:35 AM

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This has become both my practice load and my carry load for my Colt Pocket Nine and BHP because of it's accuracy and 100%dependability.

4.2 gr. Titegroup FC/Win.case WSprimer OAL 1.085" Approx.1100 fps+.

Before I switched to Titegroup,Bullseye served me well as:

4.4 gr. Bullseye FC/Win.case WSP OAL 1.085" Approx.1100 fps+

I switched to Titegroup because it seems to be slightly cleaner burning and the larger flake seems better in my powder measure.

Nortonics · March 25, 2005, 10:36 AM

Published muzzle velocity for the standard 9mm Golden saber 124's from Remington is right around 1100 fps as they make 'em, so go for that velocity and adjust accordingly.

Remington factory ammo

Here's some stuff on 'em over on Handloads.com that might help:

Your search for 'golden saber 9mm' has found 9 results

Another search with different results

As well as their loads database here:

9mm at 124 gr.

And lookie, I even found some of my chrono results:

GROUP #4 - Handloaded 9mm Luger - Remington JHP 115 gr., Hodgdon Titegroup 4.5 gr. from a 3-1/2" Smith & Wesson 908S:
1)1113.0 1.2f
2)1112.0 0.2
3)1112.0 0.2
4)1112.0 0.2
5)1111.0 -0.8
6)1111.0 -0.8
7)1112.0 0.2
8)1111.0 -0.8
9)1112.0 0.2
10)1113.0 1.2f
High: 1113.0
Low: 1111.0
E.S.: 2.0
Ave.: 1111.8
S.D.: 0.6
95%: ±0.0

GROUP #5 - Handloaded 9mm Luger - Remington JHP 115 gr., Alliant Unique 5.6 gr. from a 3-1/2" Smith & Wesson 908S:
1)1113.0 0.0
2)1113.0 0.0
3)1114.0 1.0f
4)1113.0 0.0
5)1113.0 0.0
6)1113.0 0.0
7)1112.0 -1.0f
8)1113.0 0.0
9)1112.0 -1.0f
10)1114.0 1.0f
High: 1114.0
Low: 1112.0
E.S.: 2.0
Ave.: 1113.0
S.D.: 0.6
95%: ±0.0

Damn, those are better loads than I remember - just look at those Established Spreads (E.S.)!

Okay, and even more:

virginia scout · March 25, 2005, 08:49 PM

Thanks for the information. Lots to think about.

virginia scout · March 26, 2005, 07:39 PM

Looking over the hornady guide, tks for posting I have decided to go with AA7 for the Hornady FMJ FP ENC which I have to load.

This manual lists the OAL for this bullet at 1.050 and the Jacket Hollowpoinf at 1.060.

Does this seem short to those of you who are shooting a similar combination?

If so for these two types of bullets what are you seating at OAL?

March 22, 2005, 07:44 PM	#1
virginia scout Member Join Date: March 9, 2005 Posts: 22	Looking for your Suggested load for 9mm Lugar 124 remington Golden sabers Suggested load for 9mm Lugar 124 remington Golden sabers I am looking for you suggestions for a non +P load, but still up there in velocity for a 9mm lugar with a 124 grain Remington Golden Saber. Thanks in advance for the information.

March 25, 2005, 09:35 AM	#2
kimbernut Junior Member Join Date: March 24, 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 2	9mm carry ammo/practice round CAUTION: The following post may include loading data beyond currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, TFL/THR, nor the staff of TFL/THR assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information. This has become both my practice load and my carry load for my Colt Pocket Nine and BHP because of it's accuracy and 100%dependability. 4.2 gr. Titegroup FC/Win.case WSprimer OAL 1.085" Approx.1100 fps+. Before I switched to Titegroup,Bullseye served me well as: 4.4 gr. Bullseye FC/Win.case WSP OAL 1.085" Approx.1100 fps+ I switched to Titegroup because it seems to be slightly cleaner burning and the larger flake seems better in my powder measure.

March 25, 2005, 10:36 AM	#3
Nortonics Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2004 Location: Murderapolis Posts: 521	Published muzzle velocity for the standard 9mm Golden saber 124's from Remington is right around 1100 fps as they make 'em, so go for that velocity and adjust accordingly. Remington factory ammo Here's some stuff on 'em over on Handloads.com that might help: Your search for 'golden saber 9mm' has found 9 results Another search with different results As well as their loads database here: 9mm at 124 gr. And lookie, I even found some of my chrono results: GROUP #4 - Handloaded 9mm Luger - Remington JHP 115 gr., Hodgdon Titegroup 4.5 gr. from a 3-1/2" Smith & Wesson 908S: 1)1113.0 1.2f 2)1112.0 0.2 3)1112.0 0.2 4)1112.0 0.2 5)1111.0 -0.8 6)1111.0 -0.8 7)1112.0 0.2 8)1111.0 -0.8 9)1112.0 0.2 10)1113.0 1.2f High: 1113.0 Low: 1111.0 E.S.: 2.0 Ave.: 1111.8 S.D.: 0.6 95%: ±0.0 GROUP #5 - Handloaded 9mm Luger - Remington JHP 115 gr., Alliant Unique 5.6 gr. from a 3-1/2" Smith & Wesson 908S: 1)1113.0 0.0 2)1113.0 0.0 3)1114.0 1.0f 4)1113.0 0.0 5)1113.0 0.0 6)1113.0 0.0 7)1112.0 -1.0f 8)1113.0 0.0 9)1112.0 -1.0f 10)1114.0 1.0f High: 1114.0 Low: 1112.0 E.S.: 2.0 Ave.: 1113.0 S.D.: 0.6 95%: ±0.0 Damn, those are better loads than I remember - just look at those Established Spreads (E.S.)! Okay, and even more: __________________ Tom. Last edited by Nortonics; March 25, 2005 at 11:16 AM.

March 25, 2005, 08:49 PM	#4
virginia scout Member Join Date: March 9, 2005 Posts: 22	Thanks for info Thanks for the information. Lots to think about.

March 26, 2005, 07:39 PM	#5
virginia scout Member Join Date: March 9, 2005 Posts: 22	Thanks and more follow on questions Looking over the hornady guide, tks for posting I have decided to go with AA7 for the Hornady FMJ FP ENC which I have to load. This manual lists the OAL for this bullet at 1.050 and the Jacket Hollowpoinf at 1.060. Does this seem short to those of you who are shooting a similar combination? If so for these two types of bullets what are you seating at OAL?