sierra game king vs hornady sst? - Page 2

Guv · February 5, 2013, 09:06 PM

Okay I know it's not a boat tail but it should be better than allot of the other flat base bullets out there. Do you know what the b.c. is, it can be hard to find for those "factory bullets".

GeauxTide · February 5, 2013, 09:21 PM

150gr SGK in a 308Win; 300 yards DRT.

Cowboy_mo · February 5, 2013, 10:08 PM

only used the SGK's and while the results were a kill, I swore off of them. Made a shot broadside on a deer about 85 yds. The hit was a little high but the deer flopped over backwards and didn't move for perhaps a minute (appeared to be a DRT). Then the animal jumped up and ran about 20 yds before dropping over dead. When cleaning this animal, it appeared as if the bullet had literally exploded inside. What a mess. Now, I had bought that ammo because a gunsmith and very successful hunter I know swears by SGK BTSP bullets. This guy has been to Africa 25-30 times and hunted all over the world. He's an expert, right?

So, the outfitter from S.A. that my friend has hunted with for years is in the U.S. for the SFI convention and I get an opportunity to meet with him (both guys are present) and set up a safari. I got to witness a great face to face debate between these guys about the Sierra bullets vs. Hornady bonded bullets.

It was educational and hilarious. Both agreed that the Sierra bullets are more accurate (very slight difference but still more) but they were exact opposites about which bullet performed better on game. The S.A. outfitter swears by the plain hornady cup & core bullets while the hunter/gunsmith swears by the SGK.

My take on all this: shoot the bullet that you rifle likes best and you find the best results from!

kilotanker22 · February 5, 2013, 11:11 PM

Have not grouped the sierras yet but I am going to tomorrow. If they don't shoot as good I will find more SST bullets I will chronograph both as well and update everyone.

Sure Shot Mc Gee · February 5, 2013, 11:49 PM

reynolds357 It appears your catching flack for the flying elephant. And now the A-Max water melon. I got to hand it to you. You made me chuckle a little tonight. Yes Sir. you sure did. LOL

S/S still lol

kilotanker22 · February 8, 2013, 12:56 AM

Went to the range today the sierras actually shot a lite bit better than the SST. The SST was about 50 feet per second faster but the sierra was shooting a .486 inch group and a .55 inch group. Also the sierras had a standard deviation of only 7 fps! Average speed on the 30-06 with the 165 grain sierras was 2813. The high speed was 2817. And the low speed was 2806. And three of the five chronographed 2817.

Also shot them at a gong at 300 yards today and all three bullets on the gong you could cover with a fifty cent piece.

Art Eatman · February 8, 2013, 10:04 AM

Parallels my experience with Sierras, although you're doing a bit better than my old '06 with 4,000 rounds through it.

BuckRub · February 8, 2013, 03:07 PM

The SSTs are my all time favorite bullet I shoot in the 06 and 308. I too shoot only the 165 grain atop Varget. Have found a load that punches a ragged hole and the round is devastating on game (deer, hogs, yotes, you name it). Been shooting these for about 13 years and its all I use. I too have about 300 rounds of reloads in Sierra GameKing 165 but after seeing the devastating and accuracy from the SSTs never gonna shoot anything else.

kilotanker22 · February 9, 2013, 12:56 AM

I appreciate the SST and love them but just can't find them here. The sierras are good bullets and are available. Besides deer are not hard to kill. I garaantee that one of those in the boiler room will do the job.

February 5, 2013, 10:08 PM	#28
Cowboy_mo Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,039	Never used the SST's but ... only used the SGK's and while the results were a kill, I swore off of them. Made a shot broadside on a deer about 85 yds. The hit was a little high but the deer flopped over backwards and didn't move for perhaps a minute (appeared to be a DRT). Then the animal jumped up and ran about 20 yds before dropping over dead. When cleaning this animal, it appeared as if the bullet had literally exploded inside. What a mess. Now, I had bought that ammo because a gunsmith and very successful hunter I know swears by SGK BTSP bullets. This guy has been to Africa 25-30 times and hunted all over the world. He's an expert, right? So, the outfitter from S.A. that my friend has hunted with for years is in the U.S. for the SFI convention and I get an opportunity to meet with him (both guys are present) and set up a safari. I got to witness a great face to face debate between these guys about the Sierra bullets vs. Hornady bonded bullets. It was educational and hilarious. Both agreed that the Sierra bullets are more accurate (very slight difference but still more) but they were exact opposites about which bullet performed better on game. The S.A. outfitter swears by the plain hornady cup & core bullets while the hunter/gunsmith swears by the SGK. My take on all this: shoot the bullet that you rifle likes best and you find the best results from!

February 8, 2013, 12:56 AM	#31
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Location: North Central, PA Posts: 2,117	update Went to the range today the sierras actually shot a lite bit better than the SST. The SST was about 50 feet per second faster but the sierra was shooting a .486 inch group and a .55 inch group. Also the sierras had a standard deviation of only 7 fps! Average speed on the 30-06 with the 165 grain sierras was 2813. The high speed was 2817. And the low speed was 2806. And three of the five chronographed 2817. Also shot them at a gong at 300 yards today and all three bullets on the gong you could cover with a fifty cent piece.

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February 5, 2013, 09:06 PM	#26
Guv Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2012 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,126	Okay I know it's not a boat tail but it should be better than allot of the other flat base bullets out there. Do you know what the b.c. is, it can be hard to find for those "factory bullets".

February 5, 2013, 09:21 PM	#27
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,423	150gr SGK in a 308Win; 300 yards DRT.

February 5, 2013, 11:11 PM	#29
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Location: North Central, PA Posts: 2,117	Have not grouped the sierras yet but I am going to tomorrow. If they don't shoot as good I will find more SST bullets I will chronograph both as well and update everyone.

February 5, 2013, 11:49 PM	#30
Sure Shot Mc Gee Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,876	reynolds357 It appears your catching flack for the flying elephant. And now the A-Max water melon. I got to hand it to you. You made me chuckle a little tonight. Yes Sir. you sure did. LOL S/S still lol

February 8, 2013, 10:04 AM	#32
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	Parallels my experience with Sierras, although you're doing a bit better than my old '06 with 4,000 rounds through it.

February 8, 2013, 03:07 PM	#33
BuckRub Junior member Join Date: October 3, 2012 Location: Central Texas Posts: 1,046	The SSTs are my all time favorite bullet I shoot in the 06 and 308. I too shoot only the 165 grain atop Varget. Have found a load that punches a ragged hole and the round is devastating on game (deer, hogs, yotes, you name it). Been shooting these for about 13 years and its all I use. I too have about 300 rounds of reloads in Sierra GameKing 165 but after seeing the devastating and accuracy from the SSTs never gonna shoot anything else.

February 9, 2013, 12:56 AM	#34
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Location: North Central, PA Posts: 2,117	I appreciate the SST and love them but just can't find them here. The sierras are good bullets and are available. Besides deer are not hard to kill. I garaantee that one of those in the boiler room will do the job.