Wow, Ruger blew up! - Page 3

laytonj1 · November 6, 2009, 11:31 PM

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Jim, I gotta ask?

These are coming into your shop or something right? Their like,....... not all yours.......

No. Not my guns. I've never blown one up. And if I did, by my own fault, I would not post it on the internet for the world to see.

Jim

smleno1mkIII · November 7, 2009, 12:37 AM

HOLY CRAP!!! must have been one of those idiot hillbilly handloaders that thinks oh I can make my 357 shoot with the power of a 44mag just fill the case all the way up with uniuqe I once overheard someone say those exact words in sportsman's warehouse a few years back yeah I told him to go right on ahead and blow yourself up idiot. I taught myself how to reload and I have been doing it for over 6 years now without a single mishap. God its called reading the book all the way through and listening to all the warnings people. gp 100 factory load YFR when pigs fly oh s@#$ swin flu hahaha

smleno1mkIII · November 7, 2009, 02:36 AM

factory load bbbbBS

TRX · November 7, 2009, 03:17 PM

A friend blew the topstrap off a Taurus .44 with PMC ammunition. Taurus replaced the revolver and PMC gave him a whole case of ammo in exchange for what was left of the box he'd been shooting from.

He never heard back from the companies, and it wasn't readily apparent whether the gun had failed or the ammo was out of spec.

I don't blame either manufacturer for acting swiftly to avoid a lawsuit, but it would have been nice to know where the problem was.

Piper Cub · November 7, 2009, 05:35 PM

Has to be a Taurus

laytonj1 · November 13, 2009, 01:04 AM

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I don't blame either manufacturer for acting swiftly to avoid a lawsuit, but it would have been nice to know where the problem was.

When a topstrap is blown off and / or cylinder grenades it is almost certainly from an overloaded round.

Jim

m.p.driver · November 14, 2009, 04:36 PM

Not a kaboom but a disturbing Colt story.They were bringing out the magnum carry and member at our range was testing one for an article.Not one to pass up a free chance to shoot, myself,my wife,and a friend all took turns.I shot six only got two on the paper and noticed that as i opened the cylinder it was binding. I attributed the 2 out of 6 to the front sight being cocked to one side.Wife and friend did worse and as firearm instructors i started questioning their shooting abilities.Couldnt get the cylinder open after the last six,so after looking at it i said i found the problem.I handed it back to the writer,revolver in right hand barrel in left hand.As we were shooting the barrel was unscrewing and you could take it apart by finger pressure.As much as i wanted one i passed on the magnum carry and havent bought a Colt since.
I think my 1909,1917's,and Official Police Positives must have been made in better times.

hickstick_10 · November 14, 2009, 05:20 PM

+1 on the pmc ammo

I bought some 44 pmc ammo and it was the wickedest hardest kicking stuff i ever shot, this was before i got into handloading, but i was suspicious since the jacketed hollow points were expanding immensly and the cartidges were sticking

guy sajer · November 14, 2009, 05:38 PM

Customer brought this one in . He figured Ruger should give him a new one . They did offer to sell him one below wholesale .

Chickenthief · June 23, 2016, 04:48 PM

You called for a Colt.
This is a Norwegian Kongsberg Colt 1911 in 45 ACP:

A new barrel and it shoots just fine ;-)
I think a double charge but could be bullet set back, we'll never know.

roaddog28 · June 24, 2016, 04:49 PM

Here is what happens shooting 100 rounds a week with hot frame throwers on a GP100.

ammo.crafter · June 24, 2016, 05:05 PM

I had a kaa boom with a Colt Delta Elite about 20 years back.

I was using PMC ammo mat an indoor range and with the first shot I felt a bee string-like feeling in my hand and my face was burning.

Apparently the fired round was triple charged. The slide locked (thankfully) and most of the gases were directed via the grip...blowing off both grips.

Colt acted immediately and replaced the gun.

I later discovered that the PMC ammo was known to have been manufactured incorrectly and was to be destroyed but was sold to a distributer instead.

Ocraknife · June 24, 2016, 06:39 PM

What years did RedHawks suffer from the barrel problem? Mine is an '88 I think

briandg · June 25, 2016, 11:28 AM

I feel really smart. I came up with the same things as March.

Jbar4Ranch · June 25, 2016, 03:02 PM

I did this one two weeks ago today at a Cowboy Action match. Armi-Jager .38-40 - most likely a double charge of Clays, which would have been 53% over Hodgdon's max. After 45 years of reloading, I finally made a wall-hanger.

deerslayer303 · June 26, 2016, 01:40 AM

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Something interesting here: you notice how these things aren't spitting metal back at the shooter?

From top to bottom: we know what happened with the bad batch of Redhawk barrels. The wrong lube was put on barrels on Friday, dried out by Monday, barrels got over-torqued.

The second is damned impressive. A bad round blew but NO pieces scattered. Very cool from a safety perspective.

In the third, we see a fairly typical Ruger blowup. The topstrap bends buts holds, cylinder cuts loose. Metal goes sideways, not straight back.

In the fourth it was worse but wow, it STILL won't throw metal backwards. Nice.

These pics are I presume in response to a blown-up S&W pic recently. Which lost it's entire topstrap which went God only knows where, possibly straight back. Not as cool.

You can blow anything up. Worst case, a Ruger is less likely to hurt you in doing so. These pictures aren't a condemnation of Ruger but rather a vindication of their metallurgy.

I trust my life to a Ruger daily, and nothing in these pics causes me to re

Ruger FAN BOY post of the decade award goes to Jim!!!

Sorry Jim I couldn't resist.

TxFlyFish · June 27, 2016, 06:44 AM

They do that by design...it's called "break action"

Joe_Pike · June 27, 2016, 07:55 PM

EnoughGUN · June 28, 2016, 01:51 PM

As for issues with factory ammo...
I was in the middle of a carry class shooting lake city ammo in a pretty new FN FNP .45
Fired several rounds then CRACK! and a slight buzz in my hand. Blew the mag out and decocker lever off but seemed ok otherwise. We stopped everyone firing, reloaded and fired another magazine. Performed perfectly. Afterwards we found the case with a rupture at the rim. Sent it back to FN and was sent a new gun and entire shooters package free.

pathdoc · July 17, 2016, 06:44 PM

I have been reloading for eight years, but my fear of creating a disaster like this stops me from ever wanting a true progressive press - I know I'm not ready for one yet. As soon as I bought my Lee classic cast turret press, I removed the auto indexer (I'd previously been using an RCBS Partner press). I use it solely for the ability to keep the dies screwed in and settings preserved when I change calibres and nothing else.

The cylinder of that third blowup way back on page 1 looks like a refugee from a mutant tap and die set!

Clark · July 22, 2016, 09:33 AM

Here are 3 Colt revolvers I have blown the cylinders on.

I have bought a lot of guns to try to blow them up. It is much harder than I thought, especially compared to calculating the stress on steel. It seems the yield strength for steel vs RC harness is not based on a 0.001 second pulse.

In 2001 for destructive test I bought (5) Colt police positive police surplus 38 specials for $80 ea +$19 shipping and FFL = 5/$495.... bargain.

But I loved the design, and have been collecting more. The Python cost me over $1400. Colts have not been a cheap date.

jackmoser65 · July 22, 2016, 11:46 AM

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...but my fear of creating a disaster like this stops me from ever wanting a true progressive press...

Progressives are no different. I do the same thing with my Dillon's that I do with my single stages. Just visually check the powder charge before seating the bullet. Their powder check buzzer also works well.

Guv · July 22, 2016, 12:09 PM

What 357mag GP100 load burns 22grs of H110?

Salmoneye · July 23, 2016, 07:50 AM

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What 357mag GP100 load burns 22grs of H110?

I assume it was the 110gr XTP...

Guv · July 23, 2016, 03:29 PM

Yeah, I think your right. I've been loading heavy bullets in a Max for some time and that seemed a little hot to me.

That light bullet load should be reserved for a rifle or Contender, the forcing cone looks like it's been through hell.

November 7, 2009, 12:37 AM	#52
smleno1mkIII Senior Member Join Date: November 5, 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 176	HOLY CRAP!!! must have been one of those idiot hillbilly handloaders that thinks oh I can make my 357 shoot with the power of a 44mag just fill the case all the way up with uniuqe I once overheard someone say those exact words in sportsman's warehouse a few years back yeah I told him to go right on ahead and blow yourself up idiot. I taught myself how to reload and I have been doing it for over 6 years now without a single mishap. God its called reading the book all the way through and listening to all the warnings people. gp 100 factory load YFR when pigs fly oh s@#$ swin flu hahaha Last edited by smleno1mkIII; November 7, 2009 at 02:19 AM.

November 14, 2009, 05:38 PM	#59
guy sajer Senior Member Join Date: December 7, 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 329	Customer brought this one in . He figured Ruger should give him a new one . They did offer to sell him one below wholesale . __________________ Mitch Please support Crimson Trace Grips , Mossberg and Beretta . They support our troops .

June 24, 2016, 05:05 PM	#62
ammo.crafter Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2006 Location: The Keystone State Posts: 1,970	Colt Boom I had a kaa boom with a Colt Delta Elite about 20 years back. I was using PMC ammo mat an indoor range and with the first shot I felt a bee string-like feeling in my hand and my face was burning. Apparently the fired round was triple charged. The slide locked (thankfully) and most of the gases were directed via the grip...blowing off both grips. Colt acted immediately and replaced the gun. I later discovered that the PMC ammo was known to have been manufactured incorrectly and was to be destroyed but was sold to a distributer instead. __________________ "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading". --Thomas Jefferson

June 24, 2016, 06:39 PM	#63
Ocraknife Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2002 Location: Nashville Posts: 1,117	What years did RedHawks suffer from the barrel problem? Mine is an '88 I think __________________ "The loudest sound you'll ever hear is a "bang" when you weren't expecting one." -Jimro

June 25, 2016, 11:28 AM	#64
briandg Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2010 Posts: 5,468	I feel really smart. I came up with the same things as March. __________________ None.

November 7, 2009, 02:36 AM	#53
smleno1mkIII Senior Member Join Date: November 5, 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 176	factory load bbbbBS

November 7, 2009, 03:17 PM	#54
TRX Senior Member Join Date: September 24, 2008 Location: central Arkansas Posts: 400	A friend blew the topstrap off a Taurus .44 with PMC ammunition. Taurus replaced the revolver and PMC gave him a whole case of ammo in exchange for what was left of the box he'd been shooting from. He never heard back from the companies, and it wasn't readily apparent whether the gun had failed or the ammo was out of spec. I don't blame either manufacturer for acting swiftly to avoid a lawsuit, but it would have been nice to know where the problem was.

November 7, 2009, 05:35 PM	#55
Piper Cub Junior member Join Date: February 5, 2009 Location: TEXAS Posts: 491	Has to be a Taurus

November 14, 2009, 04:36 PM	#57
m.p.driver Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 552	Not a kaboom but a disturbing Colt story.They were bringing out the magnum carry and member at our range was testing one for an article.Not one to pass up a free chance to shoot, myself,my wife,and a friend all took turns.I shot six only got two on the paper and noticed that as i opened the cylinder it was binding. I attributed the 2 out of 6 to the front sight being cocked to one side.Wife and friend did worse and as firearm instructors i started questioning their shooting abilities.Couldnt get the cylinder open after the last six,so after looking at it i said i found the problem.I handed it back to the writer,revolver in right hand barrel in left hand.As we were shooting the barrel was unscrewing and you could take it apart by finger pressure.As much as i wanted one i passed on the magnum carry and havent bought a Colt since. I think my 1909,1917's,and Official Police Positives must have been made in better times.

November 14, 2009, 05:20 PM	#58
hickstick_10 Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2009 Posts: 477	+1 on the pmc ammo I bought some 44 pmc ammo and it was the wickedest hardest kicking stuff i ever shot, this was before i got into handloading, but i was suspicious since the jacketed hollow points were expanding immensly and the cartidges were sticking

June 23, 2016, 04:48 PM	#60
Chickenthief Junior Member Join Date: January 30, 2016 Posts: 1	You called for a Colt. This is a Norwegian Kongsberg Colt 1911 in 45 ACP: A new barrel and it shoots just fine ;-) I think a double charge but could be bullet set back, we'll never know.

June 24, 2016, 04:49 PM	#61
roaddog28 Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2009 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 961	Here is what happens shooting 100 rounds a week with hot frame throwers on a GP100.

June 25, 2016, 03:02 PM	#65
Jbar4Ranch Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 1999 Location: Near Helena, Montana Posts: 1,719	I did this one two weeks ago today at a Cowboy Action match. Armi-Jager .38-40 - most likely a double charge of Clays, which would have been 53% over Hodgdon's max. After 45 years of reloading, I finally made a wall-hanger. __________________ Sometimes the squeaky wheel gets replaced... SASS 47015

June 27, 2016, 06:44 AM	#67
TxFlyFish Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2011 Posts: 1,246	They do that by design...it's called "break action"

June 28, 2016, 01:51 PM	#69
EnoughGUN Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2009 Posts: 538	kaboom As for issues with factory ammo... I was in the middle of a carry class shooting lake city ammo in a pretty new FN FNP .45 Fired several rounds then CRACK! and a slight buzz in my hand. Blew the mag out and decocker lever off but seemed ok otherwise. We stopped everyone firing, reloaded and fired another magazine. Performed perfectly. Afterwards we found the case with a rupture at the rim. Sent it back to FN and was sent a new gun and entire shooters package free. __________________ GLOCK Austrian for Lemming

July 17, 2016, 06:44 PM	#70
pathdoc Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2013 Posts: 669	I have been reloading for eight years, but my fear of creating a disaster like this stops me from ever wanting a true progressive press - I know I'm not ready for one yet. As soon as I bought my Lee classic cast turret press, I removed the auto indexer (I'd previously been using an RCBS Partner press). I use it solely for the ability to keep the dies screwed in and settings preserved when I change calibres and nothing else. The cylinder of that third blowup way back on page 1 looks like a refugee from a mutant tap and die set!

July 22, 2016, 12:09 PM	#73
Guv Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2012 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,126	What 357mag GP100 load burns 22grs of H110? __________________ Walnut and Gloss Blue, mostly!

July 23, 2016, 03:29 PM	#75
Guv Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2012 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,126	Yeah, I think your right. I've been loading heavy bullets in a Max for some time and that seemed a little hot to me. That light bullet load should be reserved for a rifle or Contender, the forcing cone looks like it's been through hell. __________________ Walnut and Gloss Blue, mostly!