Another old casing I can't ID:

Wyoredman · December 29, 2011, 12:32 PM

I found another old casing that I need help with identification:

No Head Stamp.
Rimmed Centerfire Rifle
Length of Case: 2.010"
Head Diameter: 0.572"
Rim Diameter: 0.673"
Diameter at Shoulder: 0.555"
Neck Diameter: 0.514"
Inside Neck Diameter: 0.500" (or 0.474" as neck is a bit out of round)

I found this casing laying along the old Oregon Trail in centeral Wyoming it is in pretty good shape, but the neck is a bit bent so the measurements here are a bit subjective.

If anyone has a collection they could measure and shed some light on this round, It would be greatly appriciated. Thanks in advance.

mkk41 · December 29, 2011, 01:35 PM

I'm looking down thru the specs page of obsolete US cartridges in 11th Ed of Barnes Cartridges of the World , but your measurements don't jibe with anything.

Does the case appear to be a straight-walled or slight bottleneck?

Bingo!

listed under military cartridges is the 11.4x50Rmm Brazillian Comblain M74(?). Chambered in Remington Rolling Blocks sold to Brazillian Civil Guardia.

Base dia. .588''
Rim dia .682''
Case length 2.02''
Neck dia .494''
Shoulder dia .530''

Wyoredman · December 29, 2011, 01:42 PM

I'll bet thats it! It does have a slight bottle neck. I will take a picture when I get the time and post it here!

This is the second case ID'ed here on TFL! The first was a Spencer Rimfire I found this summer.

http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...hlight=spencer

Lots of cool stuff out there. Thanks again.

Wyoredman · December 29, 2011, 01:58 PM

mkk41, does the book say anything about the year the guns were made. Maybe in the early 1880's? Thanks.

mkk41 · December 29, 2011, 02:27 PM

Doesn't really say , other than it is rarely seen in the US. I suspect the M74 stands for Model of 1874 , which was the heyday of the Rolling Block.

December 29, 2011, 12:32 PM	#1
Wyoredman Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2011 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,350	Another old casing I can't ID: I found another old casing that I need help with identification: No Head Stamp. Rimmed Centerfire Rifle Length of Case: 2.010" Head Diameter: 0.572" Rim Diameter: 0.673" Diameter at Shoulder: 0.555" Neck Diameter: 0.514" Inside Neck Diameter: 0.500" (or 0.474" as neck is a bit out of round) I found this casing laying along the old Oregon Trail in centeral Wyoming it is in pretty good shape, but the neck is a bit bent so the measurements here are a bit subjective. If anyone has a collection they could measure and shed some light on this round, It would be greatly appriciated. Thanks in advance. __________________ Go Pokes! Go Rams!

December 29, 2011, 01:42 PM	#3
Wyoredman Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2011 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,350	I'll bet thats it! It does have a slight bottle neck. I will take a picture when I get the time and post it here! This is the second case ID'ed here on TFL! The first was a Spencer Rimfire I found this summer. http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...hlight=spencer Lots of cool stuff out there. Thanks again. __________________ Go Pokes! Go Rams! Last edited by Wyoredman; December 29, 2011 at 02:59 PM.

December 29, 2011, 01:58 PM	#4
Wyoredman Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2011 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,350	mkk41, does the book say anything about the year the guns were made. Maybe in the early 1880's? Thanks. __________________ Go Pokes! Go Rams!

December 29, 2011, 01:35 PM	#2
mkk41 Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2004 Posts: 283	I'm looking down thru the specs page of obsolete US cartridges in 11th Ed of Barnes Cartridges of the World , but your measurements don't jibe with anything. Does the case appear to be a straight-walled or slight bottleneck? Bingo! listed under military cartridges is the 11.4x50Rmm Brazillian Comblain M74(?). Chambered in Remington Rolling Blocks sold to Brazillian Civil Guardia. Base dia. .588'' Rim dia .682'' Case length 2.02'' Neck dia .494'' Shoulder dia .530''

December 29, 2011, 02:27 PM	#5
mkk41 Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2004 Posts: 283	Doesn't really say , other than it is rarely seen in the US. I suspect the M74 stands for Model of 1874 , which was the heyday of the Rolling Block.