|
Forum Rules | Firearms Safety | Firearms Photos | Links | Library | Lost Password | Email Changes |
Register | FAQ | Calendar | Search | Today's Posts | Mark Forums Read |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
May 1, 2009, 06:10 PM | #51 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 9, 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Posts: 958
|
Quote:
__________________
And it's Killer Angel... as in the book |
|
May 1, 2009, 11:48 PM | #52 | ||
Member
Join Date: April 19, 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 86
|
Belated...
Quote:
Am torn on how I feel about the law - enjoying the points of view from both sides! |
||
May 2, 2009, 02:20 AM | #53 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 9, 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, VA
Posts: 958
|
Quote:
__________________
And it's Killer Angel... as in the book |
|
May 2, 2009, 11:27 AM | #54 | |
Junior member
Join Date: November 25, 2002
Location: In my own little weird world in Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 14,172
|
Quote:
WildputtingontheblackcapAlaska TM |
|
May 3, 2009, 09:56 AM | #56 |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 17, 2000
Posts: 20,064
|
While I'm not for new laws as stated above, if there is existing and applicant law on negligence - I'm for it applying. Basically, I have sympathy for the child but little for the causal adult, despite their grief. Many adults are irresponsible around kids and feeling bad afterwards should not let you off.
__________________
NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens |
May 3, 2009, 08:38 PM | #57 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2007
Posts: 551
|
This is one of those situations where I find it real difficult not to agree with the lawmakers. Yes, I hate the potential encroachment on other rights, but, hell, 8 year old + machine gun = bad idea.
The end result is that if the gun owners used better judgement in the first place, this freak accident may have been avoided. As it is, this becomes yet another 'poster child' situation for the anti-gun crowd to say how unsafe we ALL are. |
May 4, 2009, 07:27 AM | #58 |
Senior Member
Join Date: April 6, 2009
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 761
|
Some of the involved adults are already being charged with negligence under existing laws. So this new law is just political showboating.
|
May 4, 2009, 08:36 AM | #59 |
Junior member
Join Date: May 16, 2008
Posts: 9,995
|
We are quickly genetically engineering the US gene pool into the weakest most pathetic bunch of slobs the world has ever seen. While we are at it, I think we need a no children under 16 around farm equipment law. I know MANY families who have had a child hurt while operating farm machinery they would not be allowed within ten feet of in a corporate factory.
Of course, I am sure many of you operated said machinery while under 16 and graduated from high school with most of your digits and limbs. When the "zombies" finally do come, they will find this country quite a boring conquest. Last edited by johnwilliamson062; May 4, 2009 at 09:08 AM. |
May 4, 2009, 09:07 AM | #60 | |
Junior member
Join Date: May 16, 2008
Posts: 9,995
|
Quote:
|
|
May 4, 2009, 09:21 AM | #61 |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 26, 2005
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 6,141
|
Actually, you can't have a law that enforces common sense because, in a sense, the law enforces nothing. The law sets the rules and the police enforces the law. A law enforcing common sense is vague, which would hardly result in its being voided, but it, like many other laws, would give the police very broad powers, which I doubt you would want. But there are other points here.
One, which applies to most all laws, is where the law is applied or passed. Would you want a national law on this topic or at the state level? There is usually more than one way to control behaviour, and in this country we usually choose the one that makes less sense. We have a problem with 16 and 17 year olds having accidents, sometimes associated with drinking. We can raise the legal drinking age to 21 but it never occurs to anyone to raise the legal driving age to 18.
__________________
Shoot low, sheriff. They're riding Shetlands! Underneath the starry flag, civilize 'em with a Krag, and return us to our own beloved homes! Buy War Bonds. |
May 4, 2009, 01:46 PM | #62 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: July 22, 2006
Posts: 2,459
|
Quote:
Well, in theory. I'd still agree that a law intended to prevent a death or two nationwide per decade is political showboating. |
|
May 4, 2009, 02:42 PM | #63 |
Senior Member
Join Date: January 9, 2007
Location: SE Nebraska
Posts: 859
|
If the adults who allowed the child to shoot this firearm are NOT found negligent, then why should there be a law against it? The only reason it is needed, IMO, is if there is a high incidence rate of children under 16 being shot in a similar situation. In fact, the defense of this adult might be able to find a multitude of examples where children shoot full auto weapons without incident.
Fly
__________________
I told my wife I was scheduling a mid-life crisis. It was either a Harley or guns. Secretly, I've already decided on guns. :-) Bang... Bang... Bang... |
May 4, 2009, 04:03 PM | #64 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2007
Posts: 551
|
In some states, no one under 18 (16?) can operate a deli-counter meat slicer. Why is it a surprise they don't want kids handling uzis?
|
May 5, 2009, 02:43 PM | #65 | |
Staff
Join Date: October 13, 2001
Posts: 3,355
|
Quote:
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...7&postcount=25 In light of this tragedy, I suggest we all call our legislatures and ask them to ban children under 16 from being dangerously close[1] to heavy objects that can flip over or fall... unless the owners/operators of said heavy objects have certification from a competent civil engineering company[2] that said heavy objects are secure and cannot conceivably pin or crush anyone. I mean, honestly, if this saves just one or two children, it's worth it! How could anyone object?! [1] 1000 feet? If it's a reasonable distance for prohibiting guns in proximity to schools, perhaps it's a reasonable safe distance between small children and unsafe heavy objects. [2] i.e. not the company (if any) that signed off on the Dallas Cowboys training facility's replacement roof/canopy that collapsed last weekend.
__________________
“The egg hatched...” “...the egg hatched... and a hundred baby spiders came out...” (blade runner) “Who are you?” “A friend. I'm here to prevent you from making a mistake.” “You have no idea what I'm doing here, friend.” “In specific terms, no, but I swore an oath to protect the world...” (continuum) “It's a goal you won't understand until later. Your job is to make sure he doesn't achieve the goal.” (bsg) |
|
May 5, 2009, 03:03 PM | #66 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 23, 2005
Location: US
Posts: 3,652
|
Quote:
BTW, this has very little to do with firearms, and more to do with the fact that I refuse to have someone tell me how I can and cannot raise a child on private property. Out in public? Fair game. On my land and I'm not harming anyone, GTFO. |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|