Titanium Nitride-Who does this finish?

PA_FAL_FAN · October 21, 2002, 02:24 PM

Looking to refinish a bolt for a .308.
Is Titanium Nitride the most durable finish for this part?

Anyone know who applies the finish and how much it is?
Contact info (Email-Web Site / Phone #) appreciated.

Thanks in advance.!!!

HSMITH · October 21, 2002, 07:40 PM

If you want durable I would go with hard chrome unless the gold finish is part of the reason you are looking at TiN coatings. Most industrial refinishing places can do the TiN, but cosmetics may not be perfect. I do not know of gun specific TiN coatings, or companies that do it.

The primary benefit to TiN is extreme pressure and heat resistance, heat and pressures of a magnitude that the bolt of a rifle will never see. Lubricity of TiN is not all that high, and corrosion resistance is on par with hard chrome. TiN is applied with a plasma transfer that makes color nearly impossible to keep perfect on a one-off type of application, the material coated is also heated to a high temp on the surface during coating. Do some research to find out if it will do what you want. I have only used it in industrial settings.

Hope this helps.

C.R.Sam · October 21, 2002, 09:48 PM

Got a new Walther match .22 bout 98 or so...came with TiN bolt. Looked kinda funky but seemed to do no bad nor good. Gun went down the road with less than 20,000 rounds through it so no idea if it would have helped longevity.

It will make a dimensional change so that has to be accounted for if having it done aftermarket.

Sam

Cmc · October 23, 2002, 11:06 AM

Try www.techplate.com

mcrog · October 24, 2002, 07:39 PM

Might try this sight , www.trippresearch.com

don't shoot it's me · October 28, 2002, 03:01 PM

www.fordsguns.com

Cheapo · October 29, 2002, 08:42 PM

'Splain dis to me, pleeze:

If I can buy a 50-piece drill bit set, in gold Titanium Nitride, for about $20 on sale, sohowcome it costs beega-beega bucks to have a slide or frame done?

saands · October 30, 2002, 08:30 PM

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If I can buy a 50-piece drill bit set, in gold Titanium Nitride, for about $20 on sale, sohowcome it costs beega-beega bucks to have a slide or frame done?

Well for starters:

... the big price tag is not driven by the quantity of TiN material deposited ... when they tool up to run drill bits they run bazillions of them ... most likely in a continuous process so the cost of setting up the process is spread out over many units.

... the bits are easy to get clean, because they haven't been used yet. I've never deposited TiN, but most coatings are extremely sensitive to debris. This goes back to the setup issue above.

... the company that gets the bazillion bits treated is a regular customer ... that always counts for something.

... I almost forgot this one ... the shop that does the bazillion bits is located in China or some comparable labor rate location ... not the case for your slide ...

The list could go on for days ... TiN is a specialty coating and one offs are not going to be cheap.

Good Luck,
Saands

October 21, 2002, 02:24 PM	#1
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October 21, 2002, 07:40 PM	#2
HSMITH Senior Member Join Date: June 21, 2002 Posts: 2,019	If you want durable I would go with hard chrome unless the gold finish is part of the reason you are looking at TiN coatings. Most industrial refinishing places can do the TiN, but cosmetics may not be perfect. I do not know of gun specific TiN coatings, or companies that do it. The primary benefit to TiN is extreme pressure and heat resistance, heat and pressures of a magnitude that the bolt of a rifle will never see. Lubricity of TiN is not all that high, and corrosion resistance is on par with hard chrome. TiN is applied with a plasma transfer that makes color nearly impossible to keep perfect on a one-off type of application, the material coated is also heated to a high temp on the surface during coating. Do some research to find out if it will do what you want. I have only used it in industrial settings. Hope this helps.

October 21, 2002, 09:48 PM	#3
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Got a new Walther match .22 bout 98 or so...came with TiN bolt. Looked kinda funky but seemed to do no bad nor good. Gun went down the road with less than 20,000 rounds through it so no idea if it would have helped longevity. It will make a dimensional change so that has to be accounted for if having it done aftermarket. Sam

October 23, 2002, 11:06 AM	#4
Cmc Member Join Date: December 25, 2000 Posts: 59	Try www.techplate.com

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