Anyone make a 40-65 lever?

win94oz · September 16, 2014, 04:45 AM

Hi does anyone make a lever in 40-65 or will I have to use a 45-70 as a donor?

**Mike Irwin** · September 16, 2014, 05:04 AM

Chiappa Arms used to make a repro 1876. CDNN was selling them a few years ago.

Hunter Customs · September 16, 2014, 08:08 AM

Cimarron Arms offers a 1876 Winchester replica in 40-60.
They have both a long and short barrel version.
They sure are fine looking rifles.

Best Regards
Bob Hunter
www.huntercustoms.com

Jim Watson · September 16, 2014, 08:35 AM

Mike, Bob; .40-65 WCF and .40-60 WCF are not interchangeable. .40-65 was originally an 1886 cartridge, longer and more heavily loaded than the .40-60 1876.

(Confusingly, .40-60 Marlin is the same case as the .40-65 WCF.)

win94oz, I think you will have to rebarrel a .45-70 to get a modern .40-65 repeater.
There are a lot of .40-65 single shots out there - I have one - but they are meant to substitute for the .40-70 Sharps with common brass. I am at present loading a 420 grain bullet for my Browning, whereas the original repeater load had a 260 grain bullet.

Have you thought about a .45-70-300?
A friend here loads his .45-90 and .450 BPE with the 330 gr Gould Express bullet, which does very well.

Magnum Wheel Man · September 16, 2014, 08:42 AM

agree, would likely have to rebarrel an existing 45-70, unless you could find a used one so converted

I have an old Navy Arms Rolling block in 40-65... kinda like the cartridge... I've used it for long range steel buffalo shoots at the CAS range I shoot at...

don't know if it holds much advantage over the 45-70 or even 50-70 at "normal" shooting distances, particularly if loaded with heavy bullet like I run in the rolling block... in a lever gun, most bullet profiles will be close...

**Mike Irwin** · September 16, 2014, 09:52 AM

"Mike, Bob; .40-65 WCF and .40-60 WCF are not interchangeable."

Oh hell, you're right. I know they're not interchangeable, I just keep getting them mixed up as to which one went with which rifle.

September 16, 2014, 04:45 AM	#1
win94oz Member Join Date: July 31, 2014 Posts: 24	Anyone make a 40-65 lever? Hi does anyone make a lever in 40-65 or will I have to use a 45-70 as a donor?

September 16, 2014, 08:42 AM	#5
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	agree, would likely have to rebarrel an existing 45-70, unless you could find a used one so converted I have an old Navy Arms Rolling block in 40-65... kinda like the cartridge... I've used it for long range steel buffalo shoots at the CAS range I shoot at... don't know if it holds much advantage over the 45-70 or even 50-70 at "normal" shooting distances, particularly if loaded with heavy bullet like I run in the rolling block... in a lever gun, most bullet profiles will be close... __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

September 16, 2014, 09:52 AM	#6
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	"Mike, Bob; .40-65 WCF and .40-60 WCF are not interchangeable." Oh hell, you're right. I know they're not interchangeable, I just keep getting them mixed up as to which one went with which rifle. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 16, 2014, 05:04 AM	#2
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Chiappa Arms used to make a repro 1876. CDNN was selling them a few years ago.

September 16, 2014, 08:08 AM	#3
Hunter Customs Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2005 Location: Osborn, Missouri Posts: 2,697	Cimarron Arms offers a 1876 Winchester replica in 40-60. They have both a long and short barrel version. They sure are fine looking rifles. Best Regards Bob Hunter www.huntercustoms.com

September 16, 2014, 08:35 AM	#4
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,543	Mike, Bob; .40-65 WCF and .40-60 WCF are not interchangeable. .40-65 was originally an 1886 cartridge, longer and more heavily loaded than the .40-60 1876. (Confusingly, .40-60 Marlin is the same case as the .40-65 WCF.) win94oz, I think you will have to rebarrel a .45-70 to get a modern .40-65 repeater. There are a lot of .40-65 single shots out there - I have one - but they are meant to substitute for the .40-70 Sharps with common brass. I am at present loading a 420 grain bullet for my Browning, whereas the original repeater load had a 260 grain bullet. Have you thought about a .45-70-300? A friend here loads his .45-90 and .450 BPE with the 330 gr Gould Express bullet, which does very well.