Winchester model 94 AE hammer springs, anyone on here try a lighter spring?

SARuger · April 20, 2015, 04:44 PM

While looking for upgrades to my "new to me" Win 94 I found this spring kit from Wolff; 13/15# hammer spring kit

Good or bad idea? This gun is for dual purpose, hunting and target.

Apparently the stock spring is a 18#

SARuger · April 21, 2015, 09:25 AM

Anybody?

g.willikers · April 21, 2015, 10:05 AM

Is your 94 doing something disagreeable that a lighter spring would cure?

T. O'Heir · April 21, 2015, 01:10 PM

A reduced power hammer spring supposedly will give you a better trigger pull. If you're buying springs, buy the 'pak' so you'll have both.
A Win 94 is a long way from being a target rifle, but anything that smooths a trigger is a good thing.

SARuger · April 21, 2015, 01:18 PM

Nope, I just like to tinker G. It is hard to cycle the bolt. Thanks T.O. that's what I was thinking

SARuger · April 22, 2015, 09:48 AM

The springs are on order. I can't go wrong for $11 and I can always put it back original. Like said, this gun is for range fun and "might" get hunted with someday. I really wanted one lever gun in my safe to plink with and I couldn't pass it up for $300.

My XS ghost rings/dove tail blank will be in today.

DPris · April 22, 2015, 10:10 AM

One of the many benefits of the rebounding hammer of the Angle Ejects is that it gives you a heavier trigger pull and requires more effort in cycling the action.

I found with mine that the big loop lever provides more leverage & requires less effort to cycle than the standard lever.
I don't care about the heavier trigger in that gun.

Good luck with the spring kit.
You may find a tendency toward light primer hits, it may work just fine.

Denis

SARuger · April 22, 2015, 06:38 PM

Where can I find the big loop lever, that would be a nice upgrade.

I sm concerned about light strikes. That is the kind of feedback I'm looking for from someone who has tried it

SARuger · April 23, 2015, 06:04 AM

I've been searching but i can't find one of the "big loop" handles anywhere. I know that its a hollyweird thing but they do look cool. This rifle is for fun so I wouldn't mind trying one.

Does anyone have a source?

CowTowner · April 23, 2015, 09:21 AM

Here ya go:

http://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/W94FL

http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nk...d=111183510400

http://homesteadparts.com/shopcart/pid_1677.htm

http://www.mulemangunworks.com/mule-...custom-levers/

Change your Google search to Winchester 94 Large Loops.

DPris · April 23, 2015, 09:45 AM

Mule Man can modify your own lever in more than one style, take a look.

The big loopers are controversial, they can slow you down some in rapid fire with all that room for the hand to bounce around inside, but I grew up with the Wayne & Connors Winchesters, think they do look Cowboy Cool, and in my case, with THAT gun, it just works better than the standard lever.

I've tried both on it, the big loop stays.

I've also developed a technique of how to position my hand in it during cycling that doesn't slow me down much at all, practically speaking, and since I don't shoot CAS speed isn't a huge necessity anyway.
Denis

SARuger · April 23, 2015, 02:30 PM

Awesome!!!!

reynolds357 · April 23, 2015, 08:56 PM

The spring kit is a decent upgrade. If you want to help the trigger considerably, get your file and stone set out.

SARuger · April 23, 2015, 11:56 PM

I think the Mule Man is going to get my lever to upgrade, really nice work. I'm thinking the "Hunter" loop with a dark leather wrap for a mild "Hollywood Cowboy" look.

DPris · April 24, 2015, 09:31 AM

Next Marlin I decide to keep will have its lever sent to him.
Good selection of choices & you don't have to buy a whole new lever.
Denis

April 20, 2015, 04:44 PM	#1
SARuger Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2014 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains of VA Posts: 954	Winchester model 94 AE hammer springs, anyone on here try a lighter spring? While looking for upgrades to my "new to me" Win 94 I found this spring kit from Wolff; 13/15# hammer spring kit Good or bad idea? This gun is for dual purpose, hunting and target. Apparently the stock spring is a 18#

April 21, 2015, 10:05 AM	#3
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	Is your 94 doing something disagreeable that a lighter spring would cure? __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

April 21, 2015, 01:10 PM	#4
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	A reduced power hammer spring supposedly will give you a better trigger pull. If you're buying springs, buy the 'pak' so you'll have both. A Win 94 is a long way from being a target rifle, but anything that smooths a trigger is a good thing. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

April 23, 2015, 09:21 AM	#10
CowTowner Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2007 Location: Cowtown of course! Posts: 1,747	Here ya go: http://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/W94FL http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nk...d=111183510400 http://homesteadparts.com/shopcart/pid_1677.htm http://www.mulemangunworks.com/mule-...custom-levers/ Change your Google search to Winchester 94 Large Loops. __________________ NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, Home Firearms Safety, Pistol and Rifle Instructor *“Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life......”* President John F. Kennedy

April 21, 2015, 09:25 AM	#2
SARuger Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2014 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains of VA Posts: 954	Anybody?

April 21, 2015, 01:18 PM	#5
SARuger Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2014 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains of VA Posts: 954	Nope, I just like to tinker G. It is hard to cycle the bolt. Thanks T.O. that's what I was thinking

April 22, 2015, 09:48 AM	#6
SARuger Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2014 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains of VA Posts: 954	The springs are on order. I can't go wrong for $11 and I can always put it back original. Like said, this gun is for range fun and "might" get hunted with someday. I really wanted one lever gun in my safe to plink with and I couldn't pass it up for $300. My XS ghost rings/dove tail blank will be in today.

April 22, 2015, 10:10 AM	#7
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	One of the many benefits of the rebounding hammer of the Angle Ejects is that it gives you a heavier trigger pull and requires more effort in cycling the action. I found with mine that the big loop lever provides more leverage & requires less effort to cycle than the standard lever. I don't care about the heavier trigger in that gun. Good luck with the spring kit. You may find a tendency toward light primer hits, it may work just fine. Denis

April 22, 2015, 06:38 PM	#8
SARuger Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2014 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains of VA Posts: 954	Where can I find the big loop lever, that would be a nice upgrade. I sm concerned about light strikes. That is the kind of feedback I'm looking for from someone who has tried it

April 23, 2015, 06:04 AM	#9
SARuger Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2014 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains of VA Posts: 954	I've been searching but i can't find one of the "big loop" handles anywhere. I know that its a hollyweird thing but they do look cool. This rifle is for fun so I wouldn't mind trying one. Does anyone have a source?

April 23, 2015, 09:45 AM	#11
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	Mule Man can modify your own lever in more than one style, take a look. The big loopers are controversial, they can slow you down some in rapid fire with all that room for the hand to bounce around inside, but I grew up with the Wayne & Connors Winchesters, think they do look Cowboy Cool, and in my case, with THAT gun, it just works better than the standard lever. I've tried both on it, the big loop stays. I've also developed a technique of how to position my hand in it during cycling that doesn't slow me down much at all, practically speaking, and since I don't shoot CAS speed isn't a huge necessity anyway. Denis

April 23, 2015, 02:30 PM	#12
SARuger Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2014 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains of VA Posts: 954	Awesome!!!!

April 23, 2015, 08:56 PM	#13
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	The spring kit is a decent upgrade. If you want to help the trigger considerably, get your file and stone set out.

April 23, 2015, 11:56 PM	#14
SARuger Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2014 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains of VA Posts: 954	I think the Mule Man is going to get my lever to upgrade, really nice work. I'm thinking the "Hunter" loop with a dark leather wrap for a mild "Hollywood Cowboy" look.

April 24, 2015, 09:31 AM	#15
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	Next Marlin I decide to keep will have its lever sent to him. Good selection of choices & you don't have to buy a whole new lever. Denis