August 12, 2008, 10:09 PM | #51 |
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Don't under estimate those kids. My boys figured out high-low ambushes and my back hasn't been quite the same since.
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August 13, 2008, 06:11 AM | #52 |
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I have finally figured out that I simply cannot play MMA ground games with them. I have been kicked in the groin, elbowed in the eye, knee on fingers, and the worst was a knee to the cheek bone. Forty year old body takes days for the aching to stop.
I wrestled a coworker and we ended up paying for a new showcase. It was pretty close despite me giving up 15 years and 30 pounds. I was hurting for a week.....he was ready for round two the next day LOL. Definitely fun but my body just can't Handel the rigors of it. |
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David, My point was that Jim credited his gunfight success with his competitive experience . If he was successful in a gunfight and felt that his success was due to his competitive experience then Jim could not have thought that only FOF trained fellows are prepared for a gun fight. He had to have thought that competitive training was enough to win a gunfight. Since it carried him through.
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When I say I can do it all it doesn't mean I have done it all. Deal with what was said not with what you think was said.....sound familiar? You name the firearm excersise....guess what David I can do it. Thanks for the tip on gun manipulation and draw stroke. |
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Also I didn't say Cirillo disagreed with FOF training. My nasty habit of understanding what was said instead of what you think was said is rubbing off. I said that Cirillo would disagree that one needed FOF to be prepared for a gunfight. Cirillo said competition shooter made great stakeout men because when the poop hit the fan they knew how to shoot under pressure. He credited comp shooting with gunfight survival.
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August 13, 2008, 06:40 PM | #58 |
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Just spent 15 minutes reading this thread from start to finish.
My advice? Save your money. Pax said it best on page one, and I mean absolutely no disrespect to the OP at all. After over 20 years of teaching the martial arts I recognize the OP's mindset. he already has the tools and mindset that he feels he needs.
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Closed for deteriorating civility -- plus the thread has reached the point of diminishing returns.
Thanks for the good conversation, everyone. pax |
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