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WCWV · March 11, 2015, 07:51 PM

Does anyone know anything about EXPANSION INDUSTRIES powder?
They claim it to be like Hodogon Tite Group

noylj · March 11, 2015, 08:05 PM

NO, but it could be exactly TiteGroup, since Hodgdon doesn't make the powder--they are a re-lableler and distributor.

Jim Watson · March 11, 2015, 08:15 PM

The Word is that ERT7 is made in Spain. Maybe in the Rio/Maxam CSB powder family, prehaps the same as CSB1.

polyphemus · March 11, 2015, 08:15 PM

This is what they claim:

Quote:

Loads very similar to Titegroup. ETR7 is a Flake Powder, meters accurately

Titegroup is a spherical propellant.

Sevens · March 11, 2015, 09:57 PM

Titegroup is most certainly not a spherical propellant and although I don't have a can in front of me, it occurs to me that most Hodgdon powders are products of Austrailia, I would imagine Titegroup is as well.

Jim Watson · March 11, 2015, 10:01 PM

Titegroup is a "Spherical" powder because that is the Hodgdon trademark for powder produced for them by the Ball Process at St Marks Powder in Florida.

The granules have been rolled flat to adjust their burn rate so they look like flakes to those who let their imaginations run away with them.

Sevens · March 12, 2015, 02:33 PM

Haha, "imagination", okay. I don't think that is the accurate word to describe my perception of Titegroup, but I will play along AND admit defeat.

I have four different containers of Titegroup (three 1's and a four) and none of them claim that it is a flake or spherical, which I found curious since my H4895 specifically says that it is "small extruded" and my H335 absolutely claims that it is "spherical."

So I went to my 2015 Hodgdon Manual and on page 34 there is a glossy photo of three different powders for loading 9mm Luger on there is a very clear picture of a 1-lb Titegroup can and it does say on the label that "this spherical powder is ideal..."

Thus, I admit my failure above.

But...
Imagination?!

Perception!
I mean for the luvva.... look at the stuff. Lightweight, ultra-thin flakes.

Jim Watson · March 12, 2015, 04:05 PM

Hey, you were the one who said "I would imagine Titegroup is as well."

But don't feel alone. I load HP38/W231 and have read how it is a "flake" powder, too. No, it isn't, it is also a Ball powder rolled flat.

If you want a can of teeny little BBs, look at the Accurate Arms powders.

Sevens · March 12, 2015, 07:45 PM

Ahhh, THAT explains it.

(Note to self: that guy uses humor the way you do...)

hgmeyer · March 15, 2015, 10:56 AM

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March 11, 2015, 07:51 PM	#1
WCWV Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2015 Posts: 137	Powder Does anyone know anything about EXPANSION INDUSTRIES powder? They claim it to be like Hodogon Tite Group

March 11, 2015, 09:57 PM	#5
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,756	Titegroup is most certainly not a spherical propellant and although I don't have a can in front of me, it occurs to me that most Hodgdon powders are products of Austrailia, I would imagine Titegroup is as well. __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

March 12, 2015, 02:33 PM	#7
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,756	Haha, "imagination", okay. I don't think that is the accurate word to describe my perception of Titegroup, but I will play along AND admit defeat. I have four different containers of Titegroup (three 1's and a four) and none of them claim that it is a flake or spherical, which I found curious since my H4895 specifically says that it is "small extruded" and my H335 absolutely claims that it is "spherical." So I went to my 2015 Hodgdon Manual and on page 34 there is a glossy photo of three different powders for loading 9mm Luger on there is a very clear picture of a 1-lb Titegroup can and it does say on the label that "this spherical powder is ideal..." Thus, I admit my failure above. But... Imagination?! Perception! I mean for the luvva.... look at the stuff. Lightweight, ultra-thin flakes. __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

March 12, 2015, 07:45 PM	#9
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,756	Ahhh, THAT explains it. (Note to self: that guy uses humor the way you do...) __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

March 11, 2015, 08:05 PM	#2
noylj Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2007 Location: Between CA and NM Posts: 858	NO, but it could be exactly TiteGroup, since Hodgdon doesn't make the powder--they are a re-lableler and distributor.

March 11, 2015, 08:15 PM	#3
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,536	The Word is that ERT7 is made in Spain. Maybe in the Rio/Maxam CSB powder family, prehaps the same as CSB1.

March 11, 2015, 10:01 PM	#6
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,536	Titegroup is a "Spherical" powder because that is the Hodgdon trademark for powder produced for them by the Ball Process at St Marks Powder in Florida. The granules have been rolled flat to adjust their burn rate so they look like flakes to those who let their imaginations run away with them.

March 12, 2015, 04:05 PM	#8
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,536	Hey, you were the one who said "I would imagine Titegroup is as well." But don't feel alone. I load HP38/W231 and have read how it is a "flake" powder, too. No, it isn't, it is also a Ball powder rolled flat. If you want a can of teeny little BBs, look at the Accurate Arms powders.

March 15, 2015, 10:56 AM	#10
hgmeyer Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2013 Location: Elgin, IL Posts: 147	PM sent