Taurus M380 mini Revolver. - Page 2

carguychris · November 29, 2012, 01:46 PM

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Does S&W still make a 9mm revolver? I'd rather support my American arms manufacturers if possible.

IIRC S&W has not made any 9mm revolvers for about 15 years.

FWIW the two models S&W offered were the Model 940, an all-SS hammerless "Centennial" style 5-shot J frame that used conventional moon clips, and the Model 547, a 6-shot K frame with retracting tabs in the ejector star to eliminate the need for moon clips. Neither model sold particularly well and both are sought-after collector's items now.

Master Blaster 2 · November 29, 2012, 05:37 PM

1987 and 2001 Smith & Wesson was owned by the British engineering company. Taurus is made in the Americas.

Chris9472 · November 29, 2012, 06:53 PM

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1987 and 2001 Smith & Wesson was owned by the British engineering company. Taurus is made in the Americas.

Taurus' semi-autos that I've seen are made in the USA, the revolvers (which is all I'm interested in) I looked at are still made in Brazil. I'm sure the majority of the profits find their way back there too.

Chris9472 · November 29, 2012, 06:55 PM

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Charter Arms is a pretty small company (I think they employ about two dozen people). I really don't think they'll take the gamble of designing and producing a .380 revolver from the ground up.

I just got a reply today from Charter Arms Marketing about my inquiry on producing a .380acp mini revolver.

They said they would consider one for next year.

weblance · November 30, 2012, 12:19 AM

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I just got a reply today from Charter Arms Marketing about my inquiry on producing a .380acp mini revolver.

They said they would consider one for next year.

Dont hold your breath. They have been considering a 9mm revolver for many years now. If you really want a 380 revolver, get the Taurus, experiment with the springs and a trigger job, and be happy you have what you want. Waiting for Charter Arms to bring a product to market, can be an exercise in futility.

Master Blaster 2 · November 30, 2012, 04:31 AM

Charter Arms did come out with the 40 rimless revolver. They mentioned a 45ACP revolver too that went vapor gun.

http://www.charterfirearms.com/produ...bull_74020.asp

Chris9472 · November 30, 2012, 06:29 AM

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Dont hold your breath. They have been considering a 9mm revolver for many years now. If you really want a 380 revolver, get the Taurus, experiment with the springs and a trigger job, and be happy you have what you want. Waiting for Charter Arms to bring a product to market, can be an exercise in futility.

They already have a 9mm listed on their website, http://www.charterfirearms.com/produ...bull_79920.asp and I'm not waiting for them to produce a .380acp, but it would be nice if they did.

weblance · November 30, 2012, 12:13 PM

They have had the 9mm revolver listed for a long time. I have been trying to find one for a long time. They simply are not out there... anywhere. If you want something different, I suggest you try the Taurus. They ARE available, and use a proven system for a rimless revolver. There are some issues with the Taurus(heavy trigger on the M380) but it should be easily solved with springs and a fluff and buff.

Luger_carbine · November 30, 2012, 01:08 PM

Here is a review of the Charter Arms 9mm PITBULL:

http://www.yankeegunnuts.com/2012/10...s-pitbull-9mm/

I'm not sure what the 9mm revolver neato factor is all about, but I would think you'd really have to be obsessed with getting a 9mm wheelgun - just for the sake of having a 9mm wheelgun, to overlook the other issues with this gun.

wayneinFL · November 30, 2012, 01:47 PM

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For those of you screaming about a .32 revolver, most of you let one go by without even a nod. Taurus had an M327 revolver in 2" and canceled it last year.
This revolver would shoot 327 mag., 32 H & R., 32 Long and 32 acp. I have one that has never failed and has a good trigger. Wish I had another.

I have a much better 32, IMO- a S&W 432PD. The only drawback is that it's still the size of a 38 special. Why do I need a gun this big to fire 32acp, and what would be the point?

The appeal of a 32acp or 380acp revolver, with a frame proportional to the size of the cartridge, is that it would be a very small gun. It could be I frame sized or smaller. And several such tiny revolvers were available 100 years ago, but they're somehow impossible to manufacture with today's technology.

weblance · November 30, 2012, 02:23 PM

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I'm not sure what the 9mm revolver neato factor is all about, but I would think you'd really have to be obsessed with getting a 9mm wheelgun - just for the sake of having a 9mm wheelgun, to overlook the other issues with this gun.

How about the fact that you can have ammo that interchanges from Autoloader, to Revolver, to Carbine? How about the fact that 9mm ammo is the cheapest centerfire ammo available? .38 Special is $16/50 for the cheapest I can find. I can get 9mm for $10/50. 9mm out performes 38 special by a good margin.

I dont want to buy the Charter Arms 9mm revolver, but do want to take a look at one, so I can see/understand the extractor. My Taurus 905 is just a great little revolver, so that is what I am staying with. I cant understand, why people cant understand, that the 9mm revolver is a great concept. For those of us that dont reload(me)and must buy factory ammo, the 9mm make perfect sense, from an economical standpoint.

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I have a much better 32, IMO- a S&W 432PD. The only drawback is that it's still the size of a 38 special. Why do I need a gun this big to fire 32acp, and what would be the point?

I see a real advantage for a person, who for whatever reason, is recoil sensitive. I have elderly parents, who could not control the recoil of a 38 special, or of course, anything larger. So what is left, when considering a revolver? 22LR and 22 WMR. A 32 ACP revolver would be nice, because ammo is available, and recoil is reasonable.

Whirlwind06 · November 30, 2012, 04:00 PM

http://www.pinnacle-guns.com/revolver.asp

For about $250 you can get your S&W or Ruger converted to 9mm.

Bill DeShivs · November 30, 2012, 04:16 PM

Those of us screaming for a .32 acp revolver want the gun scaled down to the size of the little cartridge.

wayneinFL · November 30, 2012, 05:30 PM

I see a real advantage for a person, who for whatever reason, is recoil sensitive. I have elderly parents, who could not control the recoil of a 38 special, or of course, anything larger. So what is left, when considering a revolver? 22LR and 22 WMR. A 32 ACP revolver would be nice, because ammo is available, and recoil is reasonable.

For that purpose, there are guns on larger frames that would do the trick. SP-101 in 32 H&R mag or 327 Federal. The S&W I have. Taurus makes a 327. All of these guns will fire a 32 H&R or 32 S&W long, which are soft recoiling. No need to put a 32 acp in these.

The only advantage of the short little 32 acp cartridge over a 32 SW long or 32 H&R is to shorten the frame.

rs97 · December 4, 2012, 01:32 AM

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Those of us screaming for a .32 acp revolver want the gun scaled down to the size of the little cartridge.

+1! If NAA made Black Widow in .32ACP (scaled to the cartridge) I would get one. And no problems with loading/unloading.

Bill DeShivs · December 4, 2012, 03:12 AM

.32 acp is more powerful than .32 long.

November 30, 2012, 01:08 PM	#34
Luger_carbine Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2012 Posts: 389	Here is a review of the Charter Arms 9mm PITBULL: http://www.yankeegunnuts.com/2012/10...s-pitbull-9mm/ I'm not sure what the 9mm revolver neato factor is all about, but I would think you'd really have to be obsessed with getting a 9mm wheelgun - just for the sake of having a 9mm wheelgun, to overlook the other issues with this gun. Last edited by Luger_carbine; November 30, 2012 at 01:14 PM.

November 30, 2012, 04:16 PM	#38
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,978	Those of us screaming for a .32 acp revolver want the gun scaled down to the size of the little cartridge. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

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Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,978	.32 acp is more powerful than .32 long. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

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November 29, 2012, 05:37 PM	#27
Master Blaster 2 Junior member Join Date: May 29, 2011 Posts: 895	1987 and 2001 Smith & Wesson was owned by the British engineering company. Taurus is made in the Americas.

November 30, 2012, 04:31 AM	#31
Master Blaster 2 Junior member Join Date: May 29, 2011 Posts: 895	Charter Arms did come out with the 40 rimless revolver. They mentioned a 45ACP revolver too that went vapor gun. http://www.charterfirearms.com/produ...bull_74020.asp

November 30, 2012, 12:13 PM	#33
weblance Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2012 Posts: 1,229	They have had the 9mm revolver listed for a long time. I have been trying to find one for a long time. They simply are not out there... anywhere. If you want something different, I suggest you try the Taurus. They ARE available, and use a proven system for a rimless revolver. There are some issues with the Taurus(heavy trigger on the M380) but it should be easily solved with springs and a fluff and buff.

November 30, 2012, 04:00 PM	#37
Whirlwind06 Senior Member Join Date: March 3, 2006 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 998	http://www.pinnacle-guns.com/revolver.asp For about $250 you can get your S&W or Ruger converted to 9mm.

November 30, 2012, 05:30 PM	#39
wayneinFL Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2004 Posts: 1,944	I see a real advantage for a person, who for whatever reason, is recoil sensitive. I have elderly parents, who could not control the recoil of a 38 special, or of course, anything larger. So what is left, when considering a revolver? 22LR and 22 WMR. A 32 ACP revolver would be nice, because ammo is available, and recoil is reasonable. For that purpose, there are guns on larger frames that would do the trick. SP-101 in 32 H&R mag or 327 Federal. The S&W I have. Taurus makes a 327. All of these guns will fire a 32 H&R or 32 S&W long, which are soft recoiling. No need to put a 32 acp in these. The only advantage of the short little 32 acp cartridge over a 32 SW long or 32 H&R is to shorten the frame.